After the good showing by Victor at the last race, how many Pentons are going to show up at Glen Helen this weekend?
I will bring the MC-5 again.
How about it: Victor, Garrett, Fred, Chris (KTM)?
Oh, by the way, many of you know Mitch Boehm, the editor of Moto Retro Illustrated. At the last race at Competitive Edge he "Got Off" really hard fracturing several ribs, clavicle, punctured lung, etc. Several days in the hospital. I emailed him a couple of days ago, he is doing better and healing up from his injuries. I just finished reading the first edition of the magazine and thought it was very good. Anyone else out there get a copy of the magazine? I think it is well worth the cost, covers a variety of vintage venues, and done with very high quality paper. Get well Mitch.
I'll see if the wife wants to go. I sure do! Sat. night We are going to the L.A. County Fair to watch the X games motocross. So maybe Sunday We will ride out on the GS.
G
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Victor , there's a Honda 100 out gunning for you on that Brekie [:0]
See you at GH this weekend ?
Mike
I'll do my best to be there, work may have a hold on me.
Hope to see you and bring my Penton Pack.
Victor
Look at these varmints! And who is the Penton rider doing a brilliant job of keeping them at bay? [8D]
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Those Varmits just gobbled up another Penton!! Looks like that is LG on his bitchin Berkie.
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Hear they maybe coming down to Barber in Bama to gobble up some Southen Berkie's:-)
I witnessed these guys at Competetive Edge........I think a "tear down" is in order.
They are a fast couple of guys. Too fast, maybe?
Victor
Anyone know if a 500cc BSA piston will fit in a Honda 100 motor ?
Mike
There are at least two riders east of the Mississippi that would give the siamese Honda boys some stiff 100cc competition. I hope they do decide to traverse the continental divide. I'm thinking of two race numbers.........:D
75P - Larry Perkins
702 - Chuck Reuben
Gosh, thanks for the compliment Dale. My plan is to be at Barber with the Berkie, though the weather forecast is not looking good for grass track.:( You are right about Chuck for sure. We had an epic battle in North Carolina.
Victor, if those Hondas are too fast should we put some dollars up and see if they go bigger than 100? I raced a 150 Honda a few years ago in 125 Classic at Mid-Ohio that was also way too fast but I did not rock the boat. Only time I had a four stroke Honda pass my 125 Penton on a straight away. Thought it might be a 200.
Larry P
Larry,
Maybe you can send Buck over to do some engine inspection and "bite" work on their knobbies...[}:)]
I don't see them pre-registerd for Hollister Hills, so we'll see when the Barber entries are posted.
I didn't intend to make any waves, just having some fun. The Johnstones are sure fun to watch ride and the bikes are kinda neat.
The way I figure, today at my age, if I cheat a little from time to time, maybe a 125 Sachs barrel on my Berkshire [}:)], I don't have as much time to correct my misgivings with God and would sure hate to be at the Gates, a few points short. Only to have God say, remember that extra 25 cc back in 2009/2010, it got you the points for a Championship, but they don't count here ! :D
All in Fun !
Victor
I raced both a Honda SL100 and DKW 100 in the day. My Honda engine was built to the max. It had a Sig Erson cam, high comp piston, Honda 305 carb, and a megaphone pipe. From my personal experience I can say that there was no way that it was on par with a Sachs 100 engine. If the Hondas are punched out, the max they could go was to around 150cc. The only way the Honda could outrun the Penton would be based on rider skill.
Now hold on ;); I know that I beat one of those hondas. And my true 97cc motor with stock barrel was rubbing tires with the other, it sure was fun there at ' The Farm' ! ! LG
My first race bike was an SL 100 and it was even the same color as these twins. I know for a fact that there is no way with the technology that was around back in the day that one of these Hondas could out run a Berkshire unless it did have the extra cc's. I'm not saying that I ever did that with my Honda,but I know for a fact that it has been done and only with the extra cubes.;)
Doug Bridges
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Hey It was good seeing everyone at Glen Helen. Got an entry form for the next race. I'm hoping to put a new chain on the bike tommorrow and take it for a long test ride. Im done. Its not perfect, but, I wanna ride it. I have some pics of Lloyd, Larry, Victor and my 6-Day I would like to post. I forgot to ask the guys at the track how its done. Any easy answers
G
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Garrett ,
Good to meet you out at the ARX race .
Garrett is one enthusiastic guy and it'll be fun to see him out on the track .
Pictures from our last race are linked to Facebook from the ARX web site at //www.americanretrocross.org
Mike Johnstone - American Retrocross
BSA B50mx # 110
AHRMA legal Honda SL 100 # 110
I remember watching the races at Ascot when John Erson was winning the 100 class on a Honda. The Honda was really around 150cc and belched blue smoke everytime the the throttle was backed off. Bruce Baron tried to race a special framed SL125 against the Mettco boys and constantly got dusted. My conclusion is that there is something funny about those two SL100s.
Quotequote:Originally posted by Doug Bridges
My first race bike was an SL 100 and it was even the same color as these twins. I know for a fact that there is no way with the technology that was around back in the day that one of these Hondas could out run a Berkshire unless it did have the extra cc's. I'm not saying that I ever did that with my Honda,but I know for a fact that it has been done and only with the extra cubes.;)
Doug Bridges
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Watch the race results , stock beater Suzuki TM 100's walk away from those two Honda's . I seem to get good starts on a four stoke due to the flat power band . I don't have to shut off for a corner as soon , due to compression braking and for a beginners trail bike they handle surprisingly well . We have a huge amount of work put into setup , suspension and tuning ,all done on the cheap . If the little Honda's are running hard ,it's because their throttles are WFO all the time .
Mike
After going to the races this weekend I had to finish my bike???? Took it out for a little ride and it ran pretty good. Need to order some back hub rubber bushings from Al. Looks like I'll have to break down and buy some back shocks. A friend of mine gave me some quad front shocks and they are way to stiff. The goal is to go out to the next retro cross race with the SL70 and the 6-DAY
G
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Set up wise, I noticed Betor front forks on both bikes and Works Performance on the rear. That combination alone really helps out with the handling. Other suspension hot tips are to run a Yamaha 125 swingarm/rear wheel/brake assembly. This gives the bike a bit more wheelbase. On my Honda, we extended the swingarm about and inch and dropped the axle a 1/2 inch by putting in a z shaped piece in front of the axle slot. The best SL100 I put together was transplanting the engine into a Rickman micro-mettise frame. It was neat but kept jumping the chain because the countershaft sprocket was too far away from the swingarm pivot.
Quotequote:Originally posted by cdb50mx
Watch the race results , stock beater Suzuki TM 100's walk away from those two Honda's . I seem to get good starts on a four stoke due to the flat power band . I don't have to shut off for a corner as soon , due to compression braking and for a beginners trail bike they handle surprisingly well . We have a huge amount of work put into setup , suspension and tuning ,all done on the cheap . If the little Honda's are running hard ,it's because their throttles are WFO all the time .
Mike