Well, after 35 years I've finally made a emotional and financial investment and hope to proceed with breathing life back into this 1973 Penton Berkshire project. I'm thanking everyone in advance for helping out and offering moral support down the rocky road ahead. Thanks go out to Al B. We'll be talking more in the near future.
On the most needed list will be the following:
Front and rear rims (these look like they were run over by a truck)
Cylinder head for a 100cc ( I know, like looking for sasquatch)
Seat (have base would need to buy foam and cover though)
MX tank (or some advise if the Clarke MC5 tank will work with the CMF Hi-breather frame)
Nothing perfect needed, this will be a rider. Sorry for the low quality of the pictures as it is dark and gloomy here in Michigan this morning.
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Dale Fisher
[email protected](810) 217-0040
1972 Cheney Sachs 125cc
1972 Suzuki 380cc (might make someone a nice road racer)
1973 Penton Berkshire 100cc Project
1973 Triumph TR5MX 500cc
1974 Honda MT125 w/CR125 panels and pipe (girly bike for my daughter)
Hi Dale,
I sent you an email, might be able to help with the seat foam and cover.
RonW
I have a 100 head and pistons. LG
Sorry, the Clarke MC5 tank will not work on the CMF frame. I tryed it myself and the bottom is different.
Britt Boyette
1976 125 MC5
I bought the seat foam and cover from Al B (listed in Suppliers), used a glue gun and it cam out perfect.
G
72 six-day
Ron, LG, and Victor,
I have tried to contact all three of you via the POG email feature. Ron you posted I should have recieved an email, nothing yet. I'm not entirely sure the POG email links are working.
Ron, the seat base I have is approximately 19" long x 9" at the widest (rear) point.
LG, have cylinder and piston just need a 100cc head plus base and top end gaskets.
Victor, I see by a previous post you may have rims and other misc. items of interest. Need rims, front fender mount, 1 - handle bar mount bolt, all hex screws to clamp 35mm fork tube to triple clamp, chain guide, brake rod adjuster, to name just a few.
Thanks all,
Dale Fisher
[email protected]
Dale,
I'll email you some pic's when I get home tonight.
RonW
If your looking to put a smaller Penton tank on your bike, you might want to keep your eyes open for the MX tank that fits the CMF. It a beatiful looking tank that I hope Clarke will make sometime in the future.
Britt Boyette
1976 125 MC5
Britt, every Penton rider I have ever met is looking for an MX tank, and if they have one, they want another... there just is not that many of them. As I understand it, they were an option not a stock item. They are very cool....
Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)74'
250 hare scrambler (project bike)
I would like to find a non-usable one and have Clarke make a plastic replica from it. Anyone have one like that they would be willing to loan out for the cause?
Britt Boyette
1976 125 MC5
Dale you wouldn't be the Dale Fisher I bought my first penton off of in Toledo about 1971 would you?
Dave
Dave,
We had two steel tankers that sold about 1972. Both went to neighbors and current status/location unknown. The frame numbers were V5613 & V5704. If you ever came up to Victor Park in Milan or Mustang Acres in Brighton perhaps we may have raced. Picture is from Milan circa 1972.
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Dale.
We must have e-mail issues...I have tried to contact you a number of times...I have all you need and the price is right !
[email protected]Thanks and try again.
Victor
Dale,I raced victor park and just about every track that was running at that time within 300 miles of Toledo.I'm sure we rode the same races.The guy I bought the steel tanker off WAS a nieghbor.I traded it to Piasecki's when I bought my 72.As a matter of fact I still have a victor park sticker on my toolbox that they gave away at the first race they held.Blaze orange with white letters.I was 00m at the time Piasecki"s jersey pretty much color of the day.Jeff Greenberg has been on the site a bunch and that picture brings back the good days.I live in Idaho now but want to hit Log Road someday.My best freind and former riding partner lives in Ida and I get back to visit occasionally.
Dave,72 Six Days
Jeez Dale I must be gettin CRS.Now that I think about it The riding partner I spoke of in my last message bought his steel tanker first then took me over to the fellas house at a later date and I bought one too! Staring to seem pretty coincidental is it not.My buddies name is Dave DeLong.And lookin at the picture above you look a bit familiar I think it may be the glasses.(no pun intended) I sure had alot of fun on that bike Rode it at Dux,Blackhawks Grand Rapids and Travelers scrambles tracks till I got the 72.
Dave
MX tanks are my specialty....I have many from nos to not so nos ! Also, the mold to make them....just need committed buyers.
Victor
Dale,
Unless you want the MX tank for looks (and it does look better) the Toaster tank is not really any wider, just taller and riding the bike you will never notice the difference.
Brian
'72 Berkshire
Well Dale two heads are definitely better than one and I talked to Dave and it was Ron Sapp I bought that bike from.But I'm sure we rubbed elbows a time or two at Victor Park.I am planning to run Log Road next year.
Dave
The flat sided toaster tank was unique to the era - it's design allowed you to grip the bike with your knees better.
The classic toaster tank design is synonymous with the Penton brand.
I like the toaster tank. It is my favotite of all the Penton tanks. I have an MX tank that needs a lot of refurbishing that I plan to make a project out of to use on another Penton I am going to build. I plan to have 2 Jackpiners, one with the toaster and one with the MX tank.
Doug Bridges
73 Jackpiner
I'm with Rob,there was no confusing a penton with anything else on the track during the toaster era.They were also narrower than most of the other tanks.We also have to remember pentons developmental beginings which was the six days,jack pine, berkshire. Events where capacity was a factor.
Dave
Dale,I found the card for that guy in Tennessee that said he had lots of Sachs stuff 100 and 125. Wynn/Wood Enterprises phone 423-474-6220,name is Keith Wynn,150 Cecil Estep Road,Elizabethton,TN 37643.Sorry no website.
Thom Thigpen
1974 125 Six Days (21c)
1972 125 Six Days
Dale, How's this project coming along ?
He wanted parts from me but never heard back from him .
Some of you may have observed some bits appearing on an auction site that appear strikingly similar. I will still need help with some parts, just not as many as previously. Bob, thank you for helping me aquire the Penton project. LG thanks for emailing me your information. A number of things have been on hold until Victor is back in action. Circumstances have caused a change in plans. I am working on a budget plan, priority list, and a different Penton now[^]
I am the culprit. I traded Dale out of his project and traded him a project that did not need as much work. Worked out good for the both of us. Hopefully he will get to ride a Penton by next season this way.
Larry P
Kool [8D] LG
OK ... come on tell us what the new project is !!!!!!! [:p]
Something tells me Larry got the better side of this deal...[xx(]
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Hello, If everyone is looking for the Penton MX tanks, where were all you guys when I had my garage sale with the one off my 74 Penton Berkshire for $3 (cap and petcocks included)? I only races with it about a half dozen time until I replaced it with a yellow tank off I think a Penton 250. It still has not sold! joe
Joe, I'll take it, tell me where to send the $$$$ thx