Folks ,
I have a friend that can re-make bars for the early CMF bikes if there is a need. He has all the metal working tools needed and is used to working with 4130. He crew chief-ed one of these cars and did all the chassis mods and sheet metal fabrication
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Pictured below are the bars in question.
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Here is a better picture of the bars . They were used on the later Steel Tankers also
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They can be in 4130 or another type steel.
2 types of finish were mentioned to me , one was powder coating.
They would be US made and at a better price that the ones now on Ebay.
We are looking for bars to pattern the new ones off of now and i have 2 leads so far.
Would would anyone like to have bars like that available to us in the very near future?
john d.
I would like a set for my 72.I think I have a straight but rusty OEM bar I can bring you soon.I will give you a call tomorrow we need to talk motors.
Thom Thigpen
1974 125 Six Days (21c)
1972 125 Six Days
Thanks Thom,
Once Charlie get's a standard set as a base he can make any changes you would like , higher , more or less sweep, the width you would like etc.
You can get them in chrome or powder coated. You can get them in 4130 or another type of steel.
Look forward to your call tomorrow.
john d.
How about Gary Jones style bars?
Britt Boyette
1976 125 MC5
Britt,
If you have one for a pattern he can make one up.
Bars made of 4130 chromed made here in the USA would go for $80to$85.
Once he get's a set of the early CMF bars he can figure wall thickness and steel type for non 4130 bars. They would be less as would ones that were powdered coated as opposed to chrome finish.
john d.
John, hi,
i have the origional bars from one of my 69 Steel Tankers,
they are in great shape and would be a perfect example to use for a templet,
email me at :
[email protected] with your phone # and i will give you a call to set up shipping them to you.
regards,
Mike Gallagher, Camden County, NJ.
Quotequote:Originally posted by john durrill
Britt,
If you have one for a pattern he can make one up.
Bars made of 4130 chromed made here in the USA would go for $80to$85.
Once he get's a set of the early CMF bars he can figure wall thickness and steel type for non 4130 bars. They would be less as would ones that were powdered coated as opposed to chrome finish.
john d.
I know Can Am people would want them as they are kind of rare but nessasary for a good restoration. I do have a pair.
Britt Boyette
1976 125 MC5
The bars were also used on the Monarks as well, so there is a market for them too.
I found some old pics in a folder of my 72 125. These are the bars we are looking for folks.
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john d.
I have a set of the ones that Parmabike gets from Italy that is copied from the 72-76 chrome bars with the 1/4" separation in the center knurling, which he sells on eBay for $109 if they are needed for a pattern. I was considering next spring, with the help of Kip Kern, having Emgo make them, which would get the retail price down under $40 a set, if the chrome is up to snuff. Mike
Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
Please please no chinese ;) . Parma has three types 68-70 years and 71-73 and 73-78 .It would be the 71-73 type. LG
These were the first style that Parmabike offered, which appear to now be listed as 73-78, however I am not sure that is the correct year range because I have bought a few sets of original bars from 72-74 Pentons, and they match another set off of a 1972 Six days bike that I bought with the intention of having them rechromed. Are the ones he lists for 71-73 actually 71 early 72 with the crossbar positioned slightly lower than the ones listed 73-78? I watched some NOS ones sell on eBay fairly recently and they did not sell for what I thought they were worth, which makes me wonder if there is a market for even USA made bars for much over $49.95
From what I have seen at least on eBay, I don't see Parmabikes "almost" correct bars made in italy sell very often at all. Mike
Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
John the bars are on the way to Charlie in Oklahoma. (//%5BIMG%5Dhttp://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r368/tdthigpen/TomsBikes.jpg)[/img]
Thom Thigpen
1974 125 Six Days (21c)
1972 125 Six Days
What is wrong with the above Pic of the three pentons? The middle bars look to be husky.
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ric emmal
Definitely, and not to mention that the 71-73? bars are pretty badly bent. I imagine that he can work around that. Please keep us posted. Mike
Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
Quotequote:Originally posted by gooddirt
What is wrong with the above Pic of the three pentons?
Its a reverse image, pipe and airbox lids are on the wrong side.
Brian
'72 Berkshire
I think the bars in the middle are husky.
Hi guys. I'm Charlie Robinson and the one who is interested in reproducing the handlebars. One quick question, after receiving the bars I noticed the wide knurling for the bar clamps. Is it necessary to have the wide knurling pattern or would two narrow but properly spaced knurls be acceptable? All feedback is appreciated!
Charlie R
What ever is easiest on you in this respect. IMO.
Just my opinion but a repro should be identical in every way.
When I look at a restored bike, especially mine, all I see are the "incorrect items" Ted
In my opinion it really depends on the expected cost to reproduce the bars. If they are relatively more affordable than the current reproductions that Parmabike sells on ebay imported from Italy, then the correct knurling is not that big of an issue, since more correct ones can be found, only not in most peoples price range. If the reproductions are costly, then the importance of the correctness becomes more of a factor. Just my 2 cents. Mike
Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
I still say that the middle bars in the pics are Husqvarna bars or some other make, my 3 cents. LG