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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: Dale Fisher on May 25, 2010, 07:55:22 AM

Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Dale Fisher on May 25, 2010, 07:55:22 AM
Looks like the 100cc cylinder listed on Ebay is going the way of the 152 kit.  It also has been re-listed at a "buy it now price" of $699.

(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae59/CheneySachs/2.jpg)
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: thrownchain on May 25, 2010, 07:59:38 AM
It's only worth what someone is willing to pay. Just cuz he thinks he'll get $699, doesn't mean he ever will.....
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Larry Perkins on May 25, 2010, 08:12:34 AM
About 10 years ago I sold a couple of COMPLETE NOS Sachs motors for $500 a piece and thought I killed the fatted hog.  I had 5 of them and took 3 apart because the NOS crank assemblies and shifting mechanisms & keys were pretty easy sellers.  NOS shift keys then brought $50-$125.  I had probably 20 of these 100 topend kits with piston, rings, bearing, gaskets, and everything and sold them for $100-$150 a set.  Oh yes, bread was a nickle then I think.  LOL!:D

As far as the getting $699 goes I bet if he does not blink and can afford to sit he will eventually get it, maybe sooner than later.  Like I said a lot 10 years ago, "They're not making anymore of them."  Still true.

Larry P
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: joe novak on May 25, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
Hello,  There is an issue regarding the availability of parts for vintage Pentons.   Currently, several reproduction parts are produced.  Those which I am aware of include: metal and plastic fenders, air cleaners, handle bars, shocks, Sachs shifter keys, seat covers, foam, and bases, fork boots and wipers, rods, kick-starters, side covers, et.al.  I do not know where to locate Sachs 100cc cylinder liners, or all the correct pistons and rings.  I think the last available over-size piston offered for the Sachs 100cc was 49.5mm.  (Is this 0.060" O.S.?)   The point is that I am considering contacting WISECO which is conveniently located down the road in Cleveland, Ohio.  They do have the capability to produce custom pistons.  I heard that if produced in lots of 10+, it becomes cost effective for the buyer.  I would suggest a Sachs piston of 50.0mm.  The price of the custom pistons will hopefully eliminate the need of replacing or locating a cylinder liner.  Any thoughts or other ideas.  Thank you,  Joe
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: firstturn on May 25, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
Dale,
  I love the picture.....

Ron Carbaugh
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: thrownchain on May 25, 2010, 07:59:38 AM
It's only worth what someone is willing to pay. Just cuz he thinks he'll get $699, doesn't mean he ever will.....
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Larry Perkins on May 25, 2010, 08:12:34 AM
About 10 years ago I sold a couple of COMPLETE NOS Sachs motors for $500 a piece and thought I killed the fatted hog.  I had 5 of them and took 3 apart because the NOS crank assemblies and shifting mechanisms & keys were pretty easy sellers.  NOS shift keys then brought $50-$125.  I had probably 20 of these 100 topend kits with piston, rings, bearing, gaskets, and everything and sold them for $100-$150 a set.  Oh yes, bread was a nickle then I think.  LOL!:D

As far as the getting $699 goes I bet if he does not blink and can afford to sit he will eventually get it, maybe sooner than later.  Like I said a lot 10 years ago, "They're not making anymore of them."  Still true.

Larry P
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: joe novak on May 25, 2010, 10:09:25 AM
Hello,  There is an issue regarding the availability of parts for vintage Pentons.   Currently, several reproduction parts are produced.  Those which I am aware of include: metal and plastic fenders, air cleaners, handle bars, shocks, Sachs shifter keys, seat covers, foam, and bases, fork boots and wipers, rods, kick-starters, side covers, et.al.  I do not know where to locate Sachs 100cc cylinder liners, or all the correct pistons and rings.  I think the last available over-size piston offered for the Sachs 100cc was 49.5mm.  (Is this 0.060" O.S.?)   The point is that I am considering contacting WISECO which is conveniently located down the road in Cleveland, Ohio.  They do have the capability to produce custom pistons.  I heard that if produced in lots of 10+, it becomes cost effective for the buyer.  I would suggest a Sachs piston of 50.0mm.  The price of the custom pistons will hopefully eliminate the need of replacing or locating a cylinder liner.  Any thoughts or other ideas.  Thank you,  Joe
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: firstturn on May 25, 2010, 11:20:02 AM
Dale,
  I love the picture.....

Ron Carbaugh
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: garrettccovington on May 25, 2010, 11:59:21 AM
I'll take the used knobbies, worn countershaft sprocket and rear fender mount/electrical conduit bracket too, if I can get a copy of the pic thrown in.[:p]

G

72 six-day
79 KTM MC80 250
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Ron on May 25, 2010, 10:14:05 PM
Anyone know what the final price was, just curious.
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Dale Fisher on May 26, 2010, 03:40:34 PM
It's offered at a "buy it now" price of $699.  I don't believe he will have any takers at the moment.

(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae59/CheneySachs/ohgodyes.jpg)"
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: firstturn on May 26, 2010, 05:18:34 PM
I think it was $227.50 and didn't meet reserve....obviously.

Ron Carbaugh
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Dave Mitchell on May 26, 2010, 07:14:30 PM
Man I knew when that show "pickers" came out it twernt gonna be good for us.But I guess it could matter if your buying or selling.But for me its always been if I'm selling it's not worth squat, if I'm buying it's priceless.
Dave
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: VICTOR MONZ on May 26, 2010, 09:52:52 PM
I seem to always buy high and sell low....but it is worth the fun of riding....I could be tossing a $500 driver into the pond on the 17th hole at Diamond valley Coarse in Hemet. CA.

Victor
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: garrettccovington on May 27, 2010, 12:02:58 AM
Talk about TV programs that dooms us!  This is what happened this weekend at my house.

 This weekend My wife saw the TV program "Hoarder's" After it was over she came flying out of the bedroom, yelling, "your sick, get rid of all those Motorcycles!!!:("  Well the Penton, KTM, BMWGS & R75 toaster are stayin and maybe 1 mini was my reply[B)].  This Monday, as soon as I posted my 1st Mini on craigslist the phone rang and this guy wanted to come over and look at the 1 I just posted.  He was over in about 5 min's and I pulled all 3 of them out for him to look at.  Well the guy wanted to see if they worked and I started them up and rode them around the backyard and by time I finished riding the last one around.  My wife comes flying out of the house yelling,  Stop riding those bikes, act your age, she was pissed.:(  The guy looking at the bikes was so freeked out, he just left.[:0]  I walked into the house and thanked my wife for chasing the guy away, cause I wanted to keep them anyways.[:p]  Now she was really upset.  I slept on the couch that night [xx(]

72 six-day
79 KTM MC80 250
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: jeff greenberg on May 27, 2010, 12:27:15 PM
Garrett-  That's hilarious!  I have seen that program. There is a clinic here in AZ  that helped Tiger and now Jessie James. I heard that they "do" hording cases too!  They may be able to help you. We could do lunch.
=)
Jeff
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Dale Fisher on May 27, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Do they have a class for bike collectors and that other addiction combined?

Photo deleted by request.
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: Dave Mitchell on May 27, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
Dale,from now on all pictures taken in my pit are to be cleared through me!
Dave
Title: Holy 100cc cylinder!
Post by: garrettccovington on May 28, 2010, 01:32:42 AM
Dale's Pics are the best!!!

72 six-day
79 KTM MC80 250