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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: pakala on August 15, 2010, 10:49:29 AM

Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on August 15, 2010, 10:49:29 AM
I am looking for a small MX tank that is in good solid shape. Have lots of neat Penton,sachs,DKW stuff to trade or will pay cash.
         Thanks, Paul(socal)714-743-0236
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: ddavis on August 16, 2010, 11:23:56 AM
Paul, I shipped the tank today.

Thanks, Dean
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on August 16, 2010, 11:56:36 AM
Dean,
Did you happen to remember to send along a copy of the Dirt Rider Mag article about the FMF Penda? The one you emailed had alot of the story cut off. I showed the pic of Donnie Elmer and Dave Miller hanging out next to ther orig Penda to Dave Miller and he laughed and said wish I still had all that hair;)
 After my Penda is complete it would be great to recapturem that photo 36 years later with Donnie & Dave......
          Thanks, Paul(socal)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: sixdazed on August 16, 2010, 12:05:15 PM
Hi Paul,Is Dave building the bike for you?How about some pics during the build.Would love to see the work in progress.
                                       Take Care,
                                                  Ric





ric emmal
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: ddavis on August 16, 2010, 12:05:47 PM
Yep, its in there too.
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on August 16, 2010, 01:17:16 PM
Ric,
Yep, Dave is building it. He built a early 74'Penda (like in the pic) for the Primm museum. Mine will be the later 75' style with the up pipe.
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/pakala333/DonnieDave.jpg)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: sixdazed on August 16, 2010, 04:18:44 PM
Sounds cool Paul.Neat picture too!Please post some pics of it when done and/or in progress.Thanks,
                                    Ric


ric emmal
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: joe novak on August 16, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Can you West Coast riders give us East Coast riders some idea which components of each bike was used in the build.  Which Penton and year, and which Honda and year....  I'm not going to build one, I just want to know what you are going to build, and what was built years ago.  On the East Coast, we are more interested in building Sachs 175's using a Sachs bottom end and a KTM top end; or installing a Sachs engine in a KTM frame.  Thank you,  joe
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on November 09, 2010, 11:28:46 PM
Update:Dave Miller/FMF Penda slowly takes shape. Bike has been at Race Tech for the last months getting suspension built. Should be ready for the 2011 season.
 Paul (socal) Sorry about the crappy pic. Mo better next time:-)
 (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/pakala333/IMG_20101109_170320.jpg)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: joe novak on November 10, 2010, 09:37:28 AM
I can see that the rear engine mount was likely one of the bigger challenges in the build.  Shortened rear fender hoop...  Upper rear shock mount, Honda forks?   Did you use the stock rear wheel?  Really nice project.  Joe
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: sixdazed on November 10, 2010, 03:07:47 PM
Looking Good Paul,You must be licking your chops to get on it and go.
Nice bike.
         Ric

ric emmal
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: rob w on November 10, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
NICE ! To me, the coolest and greatest part of it all, is the man that's building it. Like original art vs. reproduction art. A Penda from the hands of Dave Miller is pretty dang special indeed. Should do doubt work great as well. Lucky you Paul. What kind of HP are we talking there ?  Is the balding gentleman in the 2nd pic, the same long-haired hippie in the first ? Thanks for sharing.
Bob
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Richard on November 10, 2010, 09:43:42 PM
I think that's Donnie Elmer of FMF holding the bike.
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on November 11, 2010, 01:40:15 AM
Bob,
 Yes, That's Dave Miller 35 years later in the 2nd pic. He bounce in behind the bike to grab a tool just as I took the pic, that why he is blury. The motor is starting out mild.. cleaned up ports,32 mikuni and the capybara pipe.
    Paul(socal)

NICE ! To me, the coolest and greatest part of it all, is the man that's building it. Like original art vs. reproduction art. A Penda from the hands of Dave Miller is pretty dang special indeed. Should do doubt work great as well. Lucky you Paul. What kind of HP are we talking there ?  Is the balding gentleman in the 2nd pic, the same long-haired hippie in the first ? Thanks for sharing.
Bob

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Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on November 11, 2010, 02:04:44 AM
Joe,
 When it come to fabing one off parts that is where Dave Miller shines. Then he can take it to the track and rail berms at great speed. You are not supposed to be able to do both!
 Going with 75 1/2 Suzuki RM125 front end reworked by race tech, 125 elsinore rear wheel, race tech shocks.DC plastics. Also working with Evan Wilcox on beating a Penton small mx tank out of aluminum.
 
           Paul(socal)
 

 I can see that the rear engine mount was likely one of the bigger challenges in the build.  Shortened rear fender hoop...  Upper rear shock mount, Honda forks?   Did you use the stock rear wheel?  Really nice project.  Joe
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Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Marc Biro on November 11, 2010, 05:27:49 PM
I'm liking this Penda talk! I have had a few of them over the years. Here are a couple of shots of my first one at Indian Dunes in 1975. Dave built the pipe for it. Dave's motto was; "Everything is sano at Miller Mano!

(http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af151/oldyamaha/biropenda7.jpg)

(http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af151/oldyamaha/biropenda1.jpg)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: joe novak on November 11, 2010, 09:27:28 PM
WOW!  Great photos of one of those custom PENDA bikes.  It seems as though no two might have been the same, but rather an evolution of the bike over a few years.  Which years was the PENDA built?   That swingarm is so period-correct with all that excess bracing and brackets.  Is the swing-arm aluminum?  Joe
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Marc Biro on November 11, 2010, 11:49:49 PM
If memory serves, I believe the first Penda was built in late 1974 by FMF. The swingarm was aluiminum.

A few more Penda pictures.......
1st picture is Dave Miller with an early Penda most likely at OCIR night mx
2nd picture is Norm Bigalows Penda at Perris Raceway, Ca. The build was started by Rick Ashe (Factory Kawasaki motor builder) and completed by Norm
The 3rd picture is of me practicing during the week at Indian Dunes in 1975
4th picture is a project!

Fun times!    

(http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af151/oldyamaha/GoMillerpento.jpg)

(http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af151/oldyamaha/normpenda.jpg)

(http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af151/oldyamaha/biropenda6.jpg)

(http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af151/oldyamaha/biropenda4.jpg)

Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on November 12, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
Marc,
Good stuff!Like Your Penda. Jackpiner blue,CZ airbox,elsinore front end,frame down tube mod, facing in? The swingarm looks to be a boyd & stelling (T&M)type with Bilstin shock?
 Olds 442 with aluminum slot mags in the back round? Cool, wish I could be sent back to 1975 for a week, I was having a bitchin time back then:-)
               Paul(socal)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: garrettccovington on November 12, 2010, 10:48:14 PM
Wow!!  The pic of Dave M, all blury was the pic I saw.   I remember, going down to FMF to get a pipe from them.  I can't remember If I ever got one, but I do remember how cool the shop was.

G

72 six-day
79 KTM MC80 250
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: garrettccovington on November 12, 2010, 10:51:00 PM
I know a young lady out here in Barstow that has a running 74 honda MT125.  She never rides it and want to sell it,, Would any parts work for this?

G

72 six-day
79 KTM MC80 250
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Marc Biro on November 12, 2010, 11:59:59 PM
Much better off locating a donor Honda CR125 1974-1977.
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: gooddirt on November 15, 2010, 02:50:05 PM
I have a Blue tank and seat so far, what works better a 125 or a 175 frame and swing arm . Would a  honda 175 mr motor work? know of a few nice rollers . Also know of a guy who says he has two fmf pentons in Socal. I dont know if they have honda motors in them its been a few years. lg
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Doug Bridges on November 15, 2010, 07:57:46 PM
I thought someone might be interested in this Craigs list add. I have a 74 KTM frame and swing arm if any one wants it.

Vintage MX Honda CR175cc engine project (Tacoma)
Date: 2010-11-14, 10:30PM PST
Reply to: [email protected] [Errors when replying to ads?]

Age group class 175cc engine project for 1974 to 1978 Honda CR125 vintage racers, there may be one of these engines racing vintage events now.

1976 Honda MR175 engine undergoing conversion to become a " CR175cc" , MR175 engine cases with work completed, MR175 cylinder, head, piston, crankshaft ready to be assembled. 1977 CR125 six speed transmission in excellent condition with clutch ready to install in MR engine cases, 1978 CR125 CdI magneto rotor, stator, coil and CDI box, ignition is working unit, rotor is installed on MR175 crankshaft and ignition required no work to install. This is a complete diss-assembled engine with all parts inspected, all small parts, bolts and side covers are included. Several small jobs need to be completed and engine can be assembled.

My value is $200.00 as all the parts are nice, I dont want to part this stuff out, will trade for TT500 engine or 1977 Maico AW fuel tank or 1977 Maico AW good front wheel, i can add $$ if your trade parts are more valuable.

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Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: sixdazed on December 09, 2010, 02:03:04 PM
I have parts of this bike(the green 4 stroke)i got from Framecrafters with a bunch of Penton stuff.I'll have to look at the frame again and see if it's set up for a honda motor.It didn't come with a motor but i think i can scrounge one up ;)...
                                                      Ric

ric emmal
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: adrian_goold on December 09, 2010, 04:21:57 PM
Aussie Penda,

This is built by Brad and Daryl Lewis (aka the Lewis Brothers).
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/147/l_d5040182e0a842a4824122356fca018d.jpg)
Piloted by Daryl Lewis - maiden ride
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/147/l_907b5cd127724e11af62295e66b2ef36.jpg)

Regards,
Adrian Goold #101
http://www.ozktm.com
(http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/rtb1042/Canberra%20September%202010/IMG_0143.jpg)
'73 175 Rebuilt.
'74 400 Now Racing!
'78 250 running soon!
'81 250 Now Racing!
'81 495 Engine Work stage.
'84 125 Now racing!
'07 300
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on December 11, 2010, 12:35:39 AM
Evan Wilcox "Maker of fine aluminum bike bits" has finished the copy of a Penton small MX tank out of aluminum. It will be the riding tank on the Penda. Pablo
(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/pakala333/penton021.jpg)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: 454MRW on December 11, 2010, 01:42:13 AM
That is awesome! I'm scared to even ask, how much? Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
75 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
74 CR250M 07 CR125R & CR150R
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: pakala on December 11, 2010, 08:45:53 AM
Mike,
 I was friends with Evan back in high school. He was part of the moto group that would hang out together during lunch at school.
 He built the tank for me at no charge. I didn't think about how much the tank was worth until you asked. Googled his site and saw some of his work and now I am scared to use the tank for riding!
http://www.wilcoxmetal.com/index.htm
        Paul(socal)
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: 454MRW on December 11, 2010, 10:53:52 AM
With even a restoration of an existing Elsinore aluminum tank costing around $1000, I figured it wouldn't be cheap. He is definitely an artist. Nice work! I think that would be better as a "show tank for the Penda". Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
75 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
74 CR250M 07 CR125R & CR150R
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Larry Perkins on January 09, 2011, 07:46:10 AM
If anyone is interested in a re-done 75 CR125M motor for a Penda project I have one for sale for $565 INCLUDING shipping and insurance to the 48 states.  More info in For Sale post.

Larry P
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: thrownchain on January 12, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
For a different approach to Penda, try the framecrafters site:  //www.framecrafters.net/projects   5 or 6 down in the right hand column, Penda with a SL Honda motor in it.
Title: Wanted: Penton100-125 MX tank
Post by: Dale Fisher on January 12, 2011, 04:48:24 PM
The Dave Miller Penda will be featured in next issue of VMX magazine issue #45.  Here's the pic they used.  

(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae59/CheneySachs/38450_137385286290049_137383096290268_282588_279811_n.jpg)

1972 Cheney Sachs
1972 Suzuki GT380
1972/73 Cheney Sachs Project
1973 Triumph TR5MX
1973 Penton Jackpiner Project
1974 Penton Berkshire
1974 Honda MT125