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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Keith Meatyard on August 01, 2011, 07:50:48 PM

Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: Keith Meatyard on August 01, 2011, 07:50:48 PM
I've recently found that a local independent gas station near me offers 100% gasoline, no ethanol, but it is "mid-grade".  This came about as I live on a river where a lot of boaters have been complaining about the problems they have with their engines that are a result of the ethanol in the gas.  The guy that owns the station says he can legally sell the ethanol free stuff because he is an independent. So....I was thinking......could the mid-grade (89) be combined with some octane booster from the auto stores to provide safe fuel for the Pentons without having to go with caswell coating the fiberglass tanks?


Keith Meatyard
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: sixdazed on August 01, 2011, 08:00:14 PM
Keith-Why not mix the mid grade with some race gas-75/25% or only as much as you need to avoid detonation(pinging).I use VP with no problems,have even left it in the tank for months even though i know thats not a good idea(it comes in a metal gas can for a couple good reasons).I've heard some of the octane boosters eats tanks but cant think of the name of the chemical that eats fiberglass up.Later,
                                                                Ric

ric emmal
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: Bob Bean on August 01, 2011, 10:53:05 PM
Why not jet and time your engine to run on 89 octane ?
98% cant tell the difference.

Bob

1986 ISDE Italy
1987 ISDE Poland
1989 ISDE Germany

1970 125 Six Day
1973 100 Berkshire
1973 Jackpiner 175
1974 Penton 250 Harescrambler
1976 Husky 250CR
1985 Husky 400WRX
1985 Husky 400WR
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: lmroberts36 on August 02, 2011, 08:47:48 AM
Find a local Sunoco station that offers race gas and get Purple. It is alcohol-free, 112 octane and leaded. Expensive, but the solution I am using.

Larry Roberts, Mont Alto, PA
1973 Penton 125 Six-days
1991 Mazda RX-7 Turbo track car
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: Kip Kern on August 02, 2011, 09:21:11 AM
I run BP 93 in everything, (modern/vintage)with no problems?
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: brian kirby on August 02, 2011, 09:22:39 AM
Keith,

Go to Reynolds hardware and buy a STEEL gas can. Then go to USA Performance on Hwy 29 just south of Nine Mile in Ensley and get some Sunoco race fuel, or go to to Ferguson field on 98 and get some LL100 AVgas. Mix that 1:2 or 1:3 race/pump and you will be good, thats what I do and I run it in all my bikes, vintage and modern. Add some fuel stabilizer and in the steel can that non-ethanol fuel will last a LONG time in storage. With this formula, you get all the octane you need, but it minimizes the amount of race/av fuel you have to buy.

Brian
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: 242 on August 02, 2011, 03:22:27 PM
Just filled my gas cans in Olney, Ill. at the Marathon station. 93 octane, no alcohol, $3.80. Yamaha shop says they sell to a lot of boat owner is why they have it.
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: derek martin on August 02, 2011, 06:31:35 PM
The web-site //www.pure-gas.org led me to two local gas stations in my area (Southern Illinois) that sell 92 octane straight gas (non-ethanol). I don't know the motives behind this site but it helped me in finding straight gas. One of the stations is a Shell station located near a large lake and has the gas available primarily for boaters.
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: Keith Meatyard on August 04, 2011, 08:49:34 PM
I checked the web site for stations near me, but they are all a ways away.  Brian, I think your idea should work out well, since those stores are nearby,

Thanks everybody,

Keith Meatyard
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: brian kirby on August 05, 2011, 01:20:44 AM
The gas station south of Jackson on New Warrington by the Pensacola Motorsports has non-ethanol gas but I dont know what octane it is. My station here only has non-ethanol in 90 octane.

Brian
Title: Solution For Ethanol?
Post by: Mick Milakovic on August 05, 2011, 09:53:13 AM
I run Family Express 93 octane mixed 50:1 with Polaris Gold oil.  I use it in all my two stokes:  modern, vintage, Weed-Eater lawn mower, and my Husqvarna chain saw with no problems.  With my dirt bikes I drain the fuel out of the tanks after each ride if I don't plan on riding in the next few days.

Mick