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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Dale Fisher on October 07, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Always interesting.... especially since it originated from boxes of parts.  Anyone able to substantiate the John Penton ISDT connection??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Husqvarna-ISDT-Husqvarna-1970-360-John-Penton-ISDT-Escorial-Spain-/200829275994?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item2ec25b8f5a#ht_500wt_743

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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on October 07, 2012, 11:24:06 PM
I don't believe that Dave Mungenast ever road a Husky in an ISDT. I believe John Penton did at least once after the Penton motorcycle was introduced, but I wouldl have to research that. I think I remember reading it in the Youngblood book. The seller doesn't even spell Ron Bohn's name correctly. ( I may also be wrong, but I'll bet I'm close.) The only way I would believe it right off is if the tech inspection paint were still on it, and the rider numbers still etched in it. I'll have to do some research.
   Dan McEntee
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on October 07, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
I'll correct myself. Dave Mungenast did ride Husky that year, but DNFed due to injury. he was on the Trophy Team with the others mentioned. I'm surprised Bruce Brown didn't work Whitey Martino into the ISDT portion of "On Any Sunday" since he was so prominent in the desert racing sequences. I would figure that Edison Dye (sp?) might have had some record of bikes procured for the ISDT for that year? Especially equipment shipped to the west coast? It will be interesting to find out for sure.
   Dan McEntee
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: socalmx on October 08, 2012, 07:17:39 PM
Whitey Martino got hurt really bad when he tried to jump a sandwash that he did not see (or was marked)due to it being on a slight uphill angle. The wash was from that point on called "Whitey's Wash". It is located in Fremont Valley in an area which is now closed to riding. I suspect that his injuries from that crash came into play for him not riding the 6 Day. Rick aka "Sixdazed" is a Checker and can probably provide more info than I know.
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: sixdazed on October 13, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
SoCal,I think i know the wash you're talking about@fremont valley(maybe from DRA days when i sometimes helped mark the courses).I didn't know Whitey at the time,as i was just a snot-nosed little desert rat(on a super rat)at the time.Dingus(Don Watkins Sr.)would for sure know,but he's at the big smoke bomb in the sky,I'll ask John Rogers,he may know.Also,i've been hanging around the Checkers since the early 70's,some taught me how to ride/read desert,etc.and some co-rode bitd+score races with me and luckily i've been pitted by the club a lot,rode Memorial rides for fallen Checkers,heck J.R.was even bestman at my wedding,but i'm not a charter member as i can't make the meetings(live in Az. now)+don't do D37 much.I'm a Checker in spirit for sure though.If i learn anything about Whiteys Wash i'll let you know,Ric
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: sixdazed on October 13, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
SoCal,I think i know the wash you're talking about@fremont valley(maybe from DRA days when i sometimes helped mark the courses).I didn't know Whitey at the time,as i was just a snot-nosed little desert rat(on a super rat)at the time.Dingus(Don Watkins Sr.)would for sure know,but he's at the big smoke bomb in the sky,I'll ask John Rogers,he may know.Also,i've been hanging around the Checkers since the early 70's,some taught me how to ride/read desert,etc.and some co-rode bitd+score races with me and luckily i've been pitted by the club a lot,rode Memorial rides for fallen Checkers,heck J.R.was even bestman at my wedding,but i'm not a charter member as i can't make the meetings(live in Az. now)+don't do D37 much.I'm a Checker in spirit for sure though.If i learn anything about Whiteys Wash i'll let you know,Ric
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: sixdazed on October 15, 2012, 02:10:26 PM
Spoke to J.R.-he didn't know about the Whitey 6 day bike,but said Fremont Valley is further north than what i was thinking.I'll keep asking around and see what i can find out.
                                          Ric
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: socalmx on November 02, 2012, 07:06:12 PM
I have not been on the site for a couple of weeks so this is my first opportunity to post. Fremont Valley is between Hwy 14 just past Jawbone Canyon along Randsburg/Garlock road up until the hills that Randsburg is located. According to "The Banner Is Up" District 37 history website. Whitey's Wash is near Koehn Dry Lake at the south part of the valley. Government Peak is at the top of the hills overlooking Fremont Valley and California City (riding areas) are on the opposite side of the hills. Use to be great riding all around there until Uncle Sam closed it down. Too bad.
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Dale Fisher on February 03, 2013, 06:54:46 AM
The John Penton ISDT Husky is back apparently with documentation this time.  No mention that it was assembled from a box of parts like the last listing [?]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Husqvarna-ISDT-1970-Husqvarna-360-Spain-ISDT-John-Penton-Competition-Motorcycle-/200889593269?pt=US_motorcycles&hash=item2ec5f3edb5#ht_1289wt_843


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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Kevin Grimes on February 03, 2013, 10:13:28 AM
I guess as in politics if you tell a story often enough it becomes truth. As I said last time this bike surfaced, it is NOT the bike J.P. rode at the Six Day in Spain. I have pictures of the real bike and this ebay listing is not the same. If you look closely at the paperwork offered as proof, no where does it say this is the bike that J.P. rode at the Six Day event.
 Yes, ISDT bikes were refurbished and imported as used bikes offered to the riders at a 30 percent discount.
 Yes, J.P. bought some of these bikes.
 NO, this is not the one he rode at the ISDT in Spain.
 As a final note, I do believe this bike was one of those bikes ridden over there, just not the one Mr. Penton rode. Is it a nice bike, you bet.
  your resident Husky nut,
            Kevin
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Dale Fisher on September 17, 2013, 05:55:51 AM
It's back again with some photos and videos on FB.  Apparently high bid was $19,500 although the tag on the number plate has a $25K asking price.  This time the seller included a skunk stripe helmet for visual effect.

http://www.midamericaauctions.com/motorcycle/husqvarna/1970-husqvarna-sportsman-isdt-2/

Seller says so, must be true....;)

(http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae59/CheneySachs/Huskyauction_zpsea419049.jpg)

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'74 Berkshire 100 - 40171056
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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Michael Thompson on September 18, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
That sure is aot of money

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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Dale Fisher on September 24, 2013, 07:43:04 PM
It's back on Ebay.  Now comes with a helmet and John Penton book....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-Husqvarna-raced-on-ISDT-in-Spain-/251345551994?forcev4exp=true#ht_766wt_1165

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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Al Martin on September 24, 2013, 08:08:24 PM
I like how the frame # is covered on the invoice showing john purchasing the bike. bet that doesn't match.
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Paul Danik on September 25, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
Just might have to show this item during the POG meeting as part of the eBay report....I wonder if it might stir a bit of discussion..

Paul
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Dale Fisher on September 25, 2013, 07:32:50 AM
I'm no sleuth... but seems to me purchasing a bike after the event and riding one in the event are two completely different claims.  I'd be interested in knowing if the seller actually contacted JP for imput or verification?

Paul,
I'll print out the information including photos and bring it to the meeting.

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Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Paul Danik on September 25, 2013, 07:34:20 AM
Dale,

  Hope to put the screen down and show the group the actual listing.

Paul
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: rob w on September 25, 2013, 09:08:11 AM
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/BobWardlow/POG%20pictorial/bad92921-2538-4ea2-af62-24a3907aa69a_zpsb450a914.jpg)
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Kevin Grimes on September 25, 2013, 10:48:32 AM


Guys,
 As I have said before, Husqvarna had two different styles of bikes prepped for ISDT competition. The Sportsman style which you see on the ebay listing and highly modified motocross style bikes. J.P., Malcolm Smith, Dave Mungenast and all the Vase team used the modified motocross framed bikes. There is simply no way this is the bike J.P. rode in Spain. I do believe Mr. Penton did buy his bike and several others after the event but this is not the one he rode in competition.
    Kevin




Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Dale Fisher on October 28, 2013, 09:11:27 AM
Looks like now the whole enchilada is up for sale including the alleged John Penton ISDT bike.  $288,000 takes it all [:0]

Due to family health issues I'm selling my entire Husky Collection, hand-picked over the years and restored to museum quality. I'm also selling the unrestored ones I have.

Contact me by email or phone for price, pics and more info on each bike. All bikes have paperwork proving their provenance/history.

Bikes sold separate or package deal. I'm motivated and they all have to go.

805-570-7557


RESTORED

-1967 360 Cross - Raced by Bud Ekins
-1968 250 Commando - Originally owned by Hollywood actor Dennis Hopper
-1968 360 Cross - Raced by World Champion Bengt Aberg
-1968 400 Cross - Prototype, raced by Husqvarna Team in Europe then brought to US and raced by their US Team
-1970 360 Sportsman - Raced by John Penton on '70 ISDT in Spain
-1970 360 Cross 8-speed - Raced by Malcolm Smith


UNRESTORED

-1970 400 Cross - Raced by Lars Larsson
-1970 400 Cross - Raced by Malcolm Smith
-1970 400 Cross - Raced by JN Roberts
-1970 400 Cross - Used by Hollywood actor Charles Bronson in the movie The Mechanic

Bikes sold as-is, no warranty, returns or refunds.
Some have title, some don't. I can help get a title here in CA if necessary. Buyer responsible for cost.

Shipping is buyer's responsibility, although I'll be happy to help.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Husqvarna-Collection-Husqvarna-Collection-Racers-and-Celebrity-Owned-/251367346231?roken=tZmmnj

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'70 Six-Day 125 - V2017
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'72 Mudlark - W257
'73 Jackpiner - 175 21159727
'74 Berkshire 100 - 40171056
And some silly other bikes...
Title: Ebay 1970 ISDT Husqvarna (JP's?) - Update!
Post by: Michael Thompson on October 28, 2013, 10:35:25 AM
I would like to read this article.
Quotequote:Originally posted by rob w

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2003 KTM 300exc
1997.5 KTM 200 "Jackpine"
1983 KTM 495
1977 KTM 250 MC5
1975 Penton Hairscrambler
1992 Yamaha WR200
1986 HONDA Z50 My first bike
1974 Suzuki RL250