I found this old Greeves advertized, drove over and looked at it, bought it. Kind of crusty but still cool. I forgot to kick it over! It is of course.....stuck. I couldn't find a lot of info on the net, thought maybe somebody here might have some insight. I have determined by the numbers that it is a 1968 Anglian, but it has a 1961-1962 Moto-cross motor in it. Anyone with a 1968 Anglian motor available? Hal
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Nice find, at least it doesn't have the goofy leading link front end on it!!
Looks quite complete, and with the headlight, too. Is it a right foot shifter? joe
Having ridden a few leading link road bikes, I kind of appreciate the solid (if slow) handling. I think this is one of the first years of Greeves to come with the Ceriani forks, and I'll bet they were a big improvement. So now that I have a few vintage bikes....where can I get to ride them with other riders of vintage bikes (In New England)? I am more of a trials or enduro type rider rather than moto-cross. I'd like to get my Six Day out and about. Hal
Yes, it is a right foot shifter. Good thing I am dyslexic!
on the steering head is the numbers greeves coding was like this. a 1965 was a tfs tgs 1968 1969 ths. it has a trials speedo. the straight leg forks were a option in 1967 on the trials bikes. frank conely in california has all the info. i have had a few greeves.e-mail me at
[email protected] if you need more info
dennis l.brown
Very nice find. Would love to see some pictures of what that looked like in its competition days.
74 250 Hare scramble
2 68 Six Day (projects)
I'm afraid you're too late to contact Frank Conley. Sadly he passed away last week.
The Anglians were made in '66 (TGS) '67 (THS) and '68 (TJS) They were all fitted with Villiers 37A engines which should be Prefixed 161FC.
I've got press photos of the UK Anglian which had the GRP red Tank fitted. Any info you require just send me a PM
thanks i did not know that frank had passed, delt with him for a long time, he did love the greeves motorcycles,except the pathfinder. my 67 anglian has differant shaped rear loop. this may be a ranger
dennis l.brown
This one is marked 24TJS on the frame, and the engine is marked
34A 203FF
So I would say it is a 1968 Anglian with a 1961 or 1962 moto-cross motor? Hal
that is not a 1961-1963 thouse were mcs motorsvery differant i think it is a late ranger bike only inported to the us
dennis l.brown
i ran the frame and motornumbers it is a 1968 tjs anglian trials motor is correct m52b. the gas tank should be red fiberglass,that tanks is off of the scottich model
dennis l.brown
I looked on the Greeves group website under "identify" and it said the 34A motor was 1961-1962? My motor also has a Villiers carburetor. The cylinder head says Greeves on it. Am I looking at the wrong number or chart? H.
The Anglian used lightweight 37A crancases. Factory bikes often had these replaced these with the more substantial 34A cases for extra strengh. The clutch cover should be one of the small lightweight ones, you have the standard 34A cover. The TJS also used REH forks, it looks like you have the better Ceriani forks.
I'll PM a press shot if you need one.
John
Now I know why the piston is stuck. Mighty-Mouse strikes again.
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Well, I got the piston free today and took the cylinder off. Inside the crankcase looks pretty good, although some seeds and nuts had gotten down in there. I used a vacuum and I think I got them all out...
The big blobs of rust on the cylinder wall did come off with a little persuasion, but there is some that remains.
It looks like the engine received new rings and a hone before it was put away last time. There is slight color from carbon from a short amount of running.
Any suggestions on how to clean up the cylinder? The lower ring appears to be free, but the top ring seems stuck. Any ideas there?
Thanks for any tips. Hal
You are very fortunate to have removed the cylinder from the piston assembly without damage. I would use a razor blade to scrape the surface of the cylinder until all the corrosion is removed. Next step would be a ball hone to clean up the bore and apply crosshatch. Unless you have access to the correct rings, it would be best to remove the piston from the rod and soak it in a liquid: ie. PB Blaster, ATF, penetrating oil, carb cleaner, paint remover,et.al. to loosen the top ring. What condition is the surface of the rings? Good luck and use PATIENCE. joe
Thanks for the tips Joe. I'll work slowly at it with a razor blade so as not to scratch it. I think there is a ball hone around here somewhere.
The rings look like shiny new chrome, and the piston is very clean, no scratches or score marks. When I bought the bike, there were some envelopes with small parts. I remember seeing a ring in there...but it didn't look like chrome. I'll keep picking away at the bike...hopefully I'll see forward progress soon. I will be starting on my Six Day 125 too, now that I have a little work space. Got to get some heat in there real soon though.
I'd like to actually ride these guys somewhere in CT, MA etc. I used to mountain bike a lot till a knee went bad. I want to get back into the woods. Hal
Hi Halk
I have just come across this thread about your Greeves. This would appear to be one of the Anglian trail or enduro models, these were based on the standard UK Anglian 24TJS trials bike but with lights, larger seat etc. Greeves also built for USA only, the Ranger which had a rack or carrier full dual seat & scrambler 'knobbly' tyres. These were aimed at cattle farmers, rangers etc for use rounding up cattle etc. The frame number for the Ranger started 24CS so your bike is not a Ranger.
As John Collard has said they originally had the 37A bottom end with the small chain case, the one in your bike has earlier 32A type chain case. The motor although using the Challenger style head & barrel was actually a detuned version for trials use. Can you give me the full frame number of the bike so it can be positively identified. Do you still have it.
contact Kenny sykes he took over for frank comely. use frank conelys web site
dennis l.brown
Thanks Dennis, I know Kenny & am also a GRA member in the UK. I have all the info on this type of bike but would like to have the frame number for records as the GRA dont have any for the bikes exported to USA. Looks like 'Halk' is no longer looking in on this forum, (it was 5 years ago) He has not replied to a PM I sent him also.
John, hi, it appears the in house message system is down again, i tried to send a test email to my self and received nothing, probably why you didn't receive a responce, but 5 years is a long time and who knows what email he may have,
regards,
Mike Gallagher, NJ.
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