Information posted on Mark's VMX site:
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Ad # 3208299 January 2, 2013
AMA has officially named tracks and dates for the series
There should be and official announcement in a day or so but they have set a schedule:
Actions Sports May 4-5
Log Road MX June 1-2
Lincoln Trail June 22-23
Mid-Ohio July 19-21
First race is the same as Devils Ridge, second is the same as Axton, third is the same as Smith Rd. I figured I'd save everyone doing the same thing.
Bill Lane
Pickerington, OH
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Dale Fisher
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1970 Six-Day 125
1971 Six-Day 125 (Dave Fisher's)
1973 Jackpiner 175
1974 Berkshire 100
And some silly other bikes...
Bummer for the date overlap. I will be at Devil's Ridge and was planning on Smith Road, since it is way closer.
LIKE Smith Road Raceway! joe
Dale, where is this information located, in order to find out more? Thank you,
Mick
I suspect the information should be posted on the AMA web site when officially announce the series/schedule. My assumption would be same vintage classes as VMD.
Dale Fisher
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1970 Six-Day 125
1971 Six-Day 125 (Dave Fisher's)
1973 Jackpiner 175
1974 Berkshire 100
And some silly other bikes...
So they intentionally scheduled their races on weekends when AHRMA had races? Way to stay classy AMA.
Brian
I loved racing at Action Sports last year on the AHRMA schedule so may try to make it on the AMA this year. I held my AMA race card last year to race Mid-Ohio but was unable to due to bike issues. Hopefully I have 2 bikes ready to go this season so I can get a few more races in.
74 250 Hare scramble
2 68 Six Day (projects)
At least they have some races close enough for me to attend..
Bob
1986 ISDE Italy
1987 ISDE Poland
1989 ISDE Germany
Here's the announcement.
http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/News/13-01-24/AMA_announces_AMA_Vintage_Motocross_and_AMA_Vintage_Hare_Scrambles_National_Championship_Series.aspx
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Dale Fisher
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'70 Six-Day 125 - V2017
'71 Six-Day 125 (Dave Fisher's) - V5553
'72 Mudlark - W257
'73 Jackpiner - 175 21159727
'74 Berkshire 100 - 40171056
And some silly other bikes...
From a email sent to me.
AMA announces AMA Vintage Motocross and AMA Vintage Hare Scrambles National Championship Series
It has been a couple years coming but it is finally here... Please help me spread the word and if you have any questions feel free to let me know.
Thanks Bart
Vintage racing is an important part of the AMA's past, present and future, and I'm pleased that we are able to expand our vintage motocross program into a series," said AMA Motocross Manager Kip Bigelow. "Our members have expressed considerable interest in more vintage racing and we're pleased to partner with an experienced promoter. I'm looking forward to some great racing on the track, as well as some invigorating bench racing and reminiscing about old times that goes hand-in-hand with the sport."
Each round will feature two days of racing: vintage hare scrambles and motocross competition on Saturdays and post-vintage hare scrambles and motocross on Sundays. AMA-chartered promoter Bart Newman from Log Road MX will serve as the series organizer in addition to hosting the second round on June 1-2.
"The chance to be a part of the AMA Vintage National Championship Series has been in the works for a couple years," said Newman. "Assembling a group of fellow promoters with a passion for the sport was paramount in making this series a success, and we have done that. This four-race series incorporates hare scrambles, vintage motocross and modern support classes for riders from 10-years old to 100-years old. I am super pumped to be a part it."
The AMA Vintage Motocross and AMA Vintage Hare Scrambles National Championship Series expand the AMA Vintage Grand Championships, held each summer at AMA Vintage Motorcycle Days. Previously, AMA-sanctioned vintage racing followed the AMA Grand Championship model, which has a long and proven history with premier events such as the AMA Amateur National Motocross Championships at Loretta Lynn's and the Dirt Track Grand Championships.
More information about the AMA Vintage Motocross and AMA Vintage Hare Scrambles National Championship Series can be found at //www.americanmotorcyclist.com/racing/nationalchampionships/vintagenationals.aspx.
AMA Vintage Motocross and AMA Vintage Hare Scrambles National Championship Series
May 4-5: Action Sports, Athens, Ohio
June 1-2: Log Road, Bronson, Mich.
June 22-23: Lincoln Trails, Casey, Ill.
July 19-21: Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, Lexington, Ohio
Dale Fisher
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'70 Six-Day 125 - V2017
'71 Six-Day 125 (Dave Fisher's) - V5553
'72 Mudlark - W257
'73 Jackpiner - 175 21159727
'74 Berkshire 100 - 40171056
And some silly other bikes...
The AMA, certainly, isn't concerned about AHRMA.
Lew Mayer
I agree that both could support each other and run a decent series. I was at Devils Ridge. Great track and nice people, but definitely one of the smallest "National" events I have ever seen. Interested to hear about the turnout for the Kentucky round. I want to ride this weekend but nephew graduation high school in Cincy.
ahrma's dates were set and published well in advance of the ama series and they put a lot of their dates directly on top of ours. ahrma has made it a point to NOT put a race up against mid-ohio which was ama's only vintage race until this year. it does not serve either series well
chicago jerry
Not only what Jerry said, but more importantly, why did AMA start a competing series in what is a very tiny market to begin with? I understand them wanting to run Mid-Ohio, but then they chose to split the already tiny vintage off road market by starting their own "National" series, which is an utter joke in itself because its barely even a Regional series, but thats another topic. There is absolutely NO way AMA could have thought there was a big enough pool of Vintage racers to make money, the only reason could be they are trying to put AHRMA out of business.
Brian
Makes you wonder who is behind the AMA's scheduling and if this is leftover bitterness from the AHRMA /Ianucci feud and lawsuits,etc.Like a couple of little kids fighting over a toy.
I see it as very much like the IRL/CART car fiasco. Bad blood between the two results in competing series in a market that can barely support one series, much less two. Just like the car deal, there are two sides to the story and both sides thinks they are right.
Brian
i would be glad to be that liason, especially since i live in ohio and could contact personally the powers that be at ama. however, i don't think that will be an option. the ama/the individual promotors were well aware of our schedule prior to dates they chose. this current watering down of attendance is the end result. remember, they didn't even a have series prior to this year to discuss. also, the series that ama has is a seperate entity from vmd. points are paid out until the race prior to that and then mid-ohio is all by itself. chicago jerry
Quotequote:Originally posted by chicagojerry
i would be glad to be that liason, especially since i live in ohio and could contact personally the powers that be at ama. however, i don't think that will be an option. the ama/the individual promotors were well aware of our schedule prior to dates they chose. this current watering down of attendance is the end result. remember, they didn't even a have series prior to this year to discuss. also, the series that ama has is a seperate entity from vmd. points are paid out until the race prior to that and then mid-ohio is all by itself. chicago jerry
Well 'jer gotta start somewhere. I say go forward but I guess you need the bessings of AHRMA first or it may all be for not.
Pete Petrick
175 Jackpiner
Slow but Good
I admit I am not a fan of the AMA, and have not been for a long time before the AMA/AHRMA feud, but I doubt the AMA has any interest in working with AHRMA, at any level.
Brian
The AMA threw AHRMA under the bus several years ago. I won't be supporting any AMA Vintage events because of that.
Dwight Rudder
AMA Life member
Quotequote:Originally posted by mike scholl
Lew,
How do you know that the AMA is not concerned about AHRMA? Could AHRMA not be concerned about the AMA?
This is exactly what I am talking about! Who ever is at fault is the problem but we will never know.....Either way it needs to stop before it's to late.
Thank you,
Mike Scholl
If you think AHRMA deserved any of what that Arse lawyer did to AHRMA then I think you better go back and research what that liar did to AHRMA and that AMA caved to his wishes so they wouldn't get attacked by him. Even Judges threw out his suit and he just refilled. He was able to do so just because he was the lawyer. They caught him cheating several times and threw him out of AHRMA. I support NEPG not the AMA. Not since the current administration took over. The AMA's vintage series is a joke.
Quotequote:Originally posted by mike scholl
Dwight, How do you know that AHRMA didn't deserve getting thrown under the bus? The bottom line is we need to support both organizations in some way or we will loose them all together at some point in time.
I'm not sure how you can support the AMA National Enduro Series and not support the AMA Vintage Series? That's just my opinion!
Mike Scholl
AHRMA Member
AMA Life Member
ACES Member
Quotequote:Originally posted by Dwight Rudder
The AMA threw AHRMA under the bus several years ago. I won't be supporting any AMA Vintage events because of that.
Dwight Rudder
AMA Life member
Quotequote:Originally posted by mike scholl
Lew,
How do you know that the AMA is not concerned about AHRMA? Could AHRMA not be concerned about the AMA?
This is exactly what I am talking about! Who ever is at fault is the problem but we will never know.....Either way it needs to stop before it's to late.
Thank you,
Mike Scholl
Quotequote:Originally posted by mike scholl
Mike,
Does anybody expect turnout on Mothers Day? Is that really when it was or is that just what they called it? Cheers.
Mike H.
Tulsa
Perfect answer Brian!
Both organisations need a person that will communicate with each other when setting dates and then the problem should go away.....
We are having problems here in Ohio with many clubs getting away from the AMA and starting other series events and all the old AMA/District clubs that are still hanging in there are getting very poor turn outs...
Example: HVMC in Logan,Ohio(AMA Chartered 40 years)had a H.S. "Mothers Day" weekend and they had a total of 49 riders! Then there was a WEXCR (non-AMA)series event less than a hour away from the HVMC event and there were over 260 riders!
What can we do to help not let this happen again between AMA & AHRMA?
Mike Scholl