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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: rob w on April 16, 2013, 10:41:02 PM

Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: rob w on April 16, 2013, 10:41:02 PM
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Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: hotrod392 on April 17, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
Great photos!
I especially like the steel tanker Jackpiner!

Thanks for posting them.

Anyone else have cool advertising peices? There should really be a section of the website dedicated to old ads.

Shane
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: Rain Man on April 20, 2013, 09:03:33 AM
a 175 Sachs motor ?? fill us in Bob.

Raymond
 Down East Pentons
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: Dwight Rudder on April 21, 2013, 04:45:01 AM
The true 175/6A Sachs engine didn't appear until Sept 1973 just in time for the Dalton ISDT. Wasn't available in a production bike until 1974.  So it was only made for 1974-75 models.  Only imported to the USA in 1975 in the Hercules GS175/6A . I have 2 with a spare engine. Very hard to find parts for it. Before that the Sachs / Hercules Werkes built 135cc bikes for the 175 class.
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: gooddirt on April 21, 2013, 12:47:13 PM
So was the bike given to Penton shop dealers  to sell ?
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: Dwight Rudder on April 22, 2013, 03:19:09 AM
No, The steel tank Jackpiners were actually left over 100 Berkshires that were bored out to 152cc with a Yamaha 305 Big Bear piston. The tanks were specially ordered from KTM for those bikes. That is why there were quite a few NEW Berkshire tanks around.
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: gooddirt on April 22, 2013, 12:37:18 PM
Not the iron barrel , the alloy type in the photo.
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: Dwight Rudder on April 23, 2013, 12:59:58 AM
There were no production or preproduction 175cc Sachs engines until Sept. 1973. Just prior to the Dalton ISDT. Any Sachs powered bikes entered into the 175 class before then were actually 135cc.
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: Dwight Rudder on April 23, 2013, 01:01:10 AM
You want one?  Put a Jackpiner top end on your Sachs engine. It can be done.
Title: The machine that makes champions
Post by: Paul Danik on May 02, 2013, 06:09:13 AM
The photo of Jack in that piece of literature was taken in John Penton's yard, we will be visiting that exact location and hearing the story from Jack Penton himself about that photo shoot at our June 1st. meeting. We will also be discussing the details of those two??or is it actually one???  Penton Steel Tankers in that literature, maybe it wasn't even a Jackpiner...stay tuned, better yet, BE THERE.
Saturday June 1st...Pentonville.

Also wanted to make mention of the PENTON name plates covering the area where SACHS would normally be, I think I read somewhere how those plates didn't come into being till later but these photos help to clarify that issue.
Paul