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General Discussion => Penton Racing Talk => Topic started by: Dale Sonnenschein on May 28, 2013, 01:14:12 PM

Title: unadilla
Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on May 28, 2013, 01:14:12 PM
I plan on going to unadilla, can I sign up the day of the race or do I have to sign up on line?

74 puch 175 SD
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
75 Penton 250
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r
Title: unadilla
Post by: Lew Mayer on May 28, 2013, 04:01:10 PM
It's a lot cheaper online.

Lew Mayer
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Post by: chicagojerry on May 28, 2013, 10:29:05 PM
MUCH!!! cheaper on-line.  don't get me started on this subject.  just got home from laying out the CC race there. it will be gncc oriented  with multiple line choices through a lot of sections. all rideable.  come join the fun.    chi jer
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Post by: brian kirby on May 30, 2013, 09:29:50 AM
The course last year was GREAT! Will it be similar this year?

Brian
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Post by: chicagojerry on May 30, 2013, 10:27:07 AM
almost identical. i added a couple of new sections that were too wet last year to get in but other than that, same thing. i did a lot of log citting on trees that fell during the last year and quite a bit of brush lopping too.  it will need more arrows, stakes tape and more lopping just before the event.   chi jer
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Post by: brian kirby on May 30, 2013, 10:35:02 AM
I know most like the tighter courses, but Unadilla is my favorite CC course.

Brian
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Post by: JCHubbard on June 05, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
Roll Call:

Brian, Dale, Lew sounds like you're all going to be there.

Any other POG members going?

I'm all in. I'll be on a 82 KTM 250 GS(WR)for XC, and probably heading back home early Sunday morning.  Was hoping to have a 68 Maico 360 MC ready for vintage MX this year, but alas I still have a bit of ways to go with the restoration.

See ya that gate!

JCHubbard
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Post by: dennis foley on June 05, 2013, 10:33:59 AM
ill will be there, racing saturday and sunday.
Title: unadilla
Post by: chicagojerry on June 05, 2013, 11:27:17 AM
i will be there from thurs afternoon through the weekend.  riding the CC vmx and pvmx.    my texas chums are coming too! watch out for THAT party!  jack and john will be there too  
[8D] chi jer
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Post by: JCHubbard on June 05, 2013, 12:26:38 PM
Missed the event last year.  I heard through many friends that it was one of the best Vintage/PV race event they had ever attended.  Looking forward to it.

Never had any doubt about you being there Chi Jer!!...Looking forward to racing on the course you designed.

Been keeping an eye on the weather up there and so far race day (next Friday) is looking good.
Title: unadilla
Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on June 05, 2013, 01:49:02 PM
I'm riding the PVCC and PVMX on a 360 husky. Maybe the VMX if I get my penton back together. I've ridden the GNCC there a few times. The MX track is awesome to ride. The woods are pretty cool too. The railroad bed gets some nasty whoops.

74 puch 175 SD
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
75 Penton 250
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r
Title: unadilla
Post by: brian kirby on June 05, 2013, 02:55:29 PM
I cant make it, my knee is still messed up from Diamond Dons.

Brian
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Post by: Speedy on June 05, 2013, 03:40:08 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by JCHubbard

Roll Call:

Brian, Dale, Lew sounds like you're all going to be there.

Any other POG members going?

I'm all in. I'll be on a 82 KTM 250 GS(WR)for XC, and probably heading back home early Sunday morning.  Was hoping to have a 68 Maico 360 MC ready for vintage MX this year, but alas I still have a bit of ways to go with the restoration.

JCHubbard




I will be there racing a 125 GS Zuendapp from 1972-3 in the HS and will see about the MX when I come there.Lol

Title: unadilla
Post by: JCHubbard on June 05, 2013, 10:43:21 PM
Brian, that's a bummer...I talked Mike M. and he told me that you were going to be there.  I'm sorry to hear about your knee.  Hope you heal up soon.  Are you going to make it to the Reunion Ride?

Speedy, great to hear your going to be there on the Zuendapp.  No more Hercules, huh? Look forward to seeing you there!
Title: unadilla
Post by: Gordon Brennan on June 06, 2013, 09:07:42 AM
I'll be there for the Trials on Friday, with the Penton and Saturday for the VMX, with the Husky. But I'll also be watching friends racing PVMX and CC.
Should be a great weekend. Glad to see they added Trials.
Any other Mudlarks going to be there?

Sorry to hear about your knee Brian. I was looking forward to seeing you race your 100.
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Post by: brian kirby on June 06, 2013, 11:57:35 AM
I hurt both my knees at the same time in March 2010. I basically hurt them every time I race, its just a matter of which one and how bad. Normally it takes 3-4 days and they are OK, but for some reason this time it didnt feel that bad at Diamond Dons, but its taken 6 weeks before they felt normal again.

I probably could race Unadilla, but I'm not 100% sure, and I dont want to drive 16 hrs only to find out they are not ready. Plus, I want to be healthy for the Reunion Ride in August. Knees will be good to go for the ISDTRR.

Brian
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Post by: jeff greenberg on June 06, 2013, 10:35:31 PM
Brian, you still have your ACL's  in tact?
Title: unadilla
Post by: tooclose racing on June 08, 2013, 08:07:20 AM
I'll be there with the 76 MC5 250 to run PVXC and PVMX - sure hope it stops raining between now and then.  We've had a boatload of it for last few days.

Brian - bummer to hear about your knees - I guess my thinking would be the longer view if you want to do this for a lot of years.  Knees are expensive.  Take it easy, Unadilla Rewind (hopefully) is not going anywhere.  Of course, I'm basically going against my own doctor's orders showing up to race, but I figured since I'm not doing the double on Friday (no VXC) I'm actually taking it pretty easy on myself.  And my back is feeling better.  Reverse Polish Logic, or something like that.  ;)  

I didn't race Saturday last year and I really enjoyed the "day off" in between Friday and Sunday's racing, except I drank too much.  Many of you are such a bad influence...[:p]

Title: unadilla
Post by: brian kirby on June 08, 2013, 09:03:44 AM
Jeff, my ligaments are all good, its the meniscus or something else that is damaged. Its really strange, the knees are fine until I land really hard from a jump, or if the front end washes and I try to catch the bike by putting my leg out. My knee will kind of "pop" but it doesnt move like when a ligament is gone, its more like popping a knuckle in your finger, only 1000 times worse. Sometimes it pops and its fine, most times it pops and it takes 3-5 days before its OK. Rarely like this time it pops and takes 6-8 weeks. I can never tell by the pain of the initial pop how long its going to take, when I hurt it at Diamond Dons it didnt feel bad at all until I got home, then it swelled up and I could barely move it for a week. I've been to 4 doctors and they wiggle it, find no ligament damage and say there is nothing wrong and they wont order an MRI when I insist there is something wrong.

Bob, I decided to pass on Unadilla for exactly the reason you said. I went last year, and like you said, it isnt going anywhere, there will be plenty of years down the road I can go.

Brian
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Post by: tofriedel on June 08, 2013, 09:18:59 AM
Brian,

Find yourself a top notch orthopedic knee doctor.  Go to another city if necessary.  If the meniscus is going, it will never get better, but it will get worse.

I did mine many years ago, before current surgical technics and all they did was open up your knee remove the debris and polished up what remained and sewed you back up.  Some 30 years later I had to have a full knee replacement.  I had zero ligiment damage.  What a difference.

You are in and out of the hospital in 2- 3 days, 4-5 weeks of PT and you ready to go with no pain.



Tony
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Post by: jeff greenberg on June 08, 2013, 09:16:02 PM
Brian, re-knees and such:  it takes courage to grow old!!
Jeff
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Post by: Gordon Brennan on June 10, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
Unadilla won't be nearly as much fun for me as I had expected.
Just received an email. ahrma cancelled the Trials do to an ill family member that was going to help set it up.
I know Trials doesn't appeal to very many of the folks here, but it's the whole reason I joined ahrma and am going to Unadilla. It's the closest ahrma will be to New England.
I feel bad for this person that is ill and hope the best for them. I don't mean to sound selfish, but I just don't get how one person can stop the event. Just for a minute, imagine if someone running the VMX on Saturday or the CC on Friday became ill. Somehow, I'm thinking ahrma would find someone to replace them and the show would go on.
Sorry for the rant. Just bummed about the whole thing. Been waiting and prepping my Penton for a long time for this event. I love Vintage Trials as much as you guys love Vintage MX and CC.
Title: unadilla
Post by: chicagojerry on June 11, 2013, 06:56:02 AM
sorry gordon. i knew that you were really looking forward to this. the problem is deeper than you realize and is symptomatic of some of the struggles within ahrma.  debbie poole is who fell ill. bad enough that she and her husband rob had to cancel coming to unadilla, among other things. they were hoping to have someone else to be able to be the trials master to set up the sections etc ahead of time.that didn't happen and being so close to the event now makes it pretty tough to try to get someone to be able to do it in time. also, there is some dissension among some of the trials guys in the east due to the continued denial from ahrma to allow for a trails "twin-shock" aka pv trials classes. that in turn makes it harder yet to get some volunteers to be able to make it all come together. i know that doesn't help with your disappointment, but at least i hope that it gives you clearer picture of some of the stuff behind the scene. please look me up over the weekend.  chicago jerry
Title: unadilla
Post by: Gordon Brennan on June 11, 2013, 08:31:13 AM
Thanks Jerry. I will find you. Didn't mean to sound insensitive. I'll be on a 73 Husky with a white frame and will be pitted with friends riding Ossa's and Honda's.
Title: unadilla
Post by: Lew Mayer on June 11, 2013, 03:24:07 PM
Look me up,as well, Gordon.

Lew Mayer
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Post by: Lew Mayer on June 14, 2013, 09:54:59 AM
Day one, so far, rain finally stopped on the way to the track. Thank God. Sun is out
and CC is delayed two hours. Hopefully this muddy mess may start
to dry out.

Lew Mayer
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Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on June 17, 2013, 05:00:15 PM
Well, the rain held off for most of the weekend. The CC was muddy but not terrible. The MX was awesome. Saturday was a great day weather wise and sunday had a couple brief showers but they got all the motos in. The VMX was a little delayed and ran long.THey had to cut laps for the second moto. Weather was questionable sunday and they ran 3 lap motos too. But they got everything in.  All in all it was a fun weekend. A big thanks to the robinson family who put in a ton of work and all the volunteers too. Great job on the national anthem by chicago jerry!

74 puch 175 SD
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
75 Penton 250
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r
Title: unadilla
Post by: Gordon Brennan on June 17, 2013, 08:29:09 PM
+1 on Jerry doing a great job with the National Anthem.
Photos are up on Paul Buckley's site.
http://www.buckleyphotos.com/
Hope to have some of my own to post soon. Had a fantastic time racing and spending time with friends. Guy Cooper was just amazing to watch. So fast and smooth. Wow what a great weekend.
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Post by: tooclose racing on June 17, 2013, 11:10:17 PM
Great time at Unadilla. CC entries looked about the same as last year, but the motocross numbers seemed larger.

The CC course on Friday was for the most part in great condition considering all the rain, but by the time the PV guys got on the course the mud (black) hole in the first section took some guys out of the action.  I got thru it, but it was painful the last couple of laps.    By the end of race, some people went ahead and started routing around it and I can't say I blame them.  I talked to Jerry post-race and understand he can't be all people and all places at all times.  A sincere thanks Jerry for setting up this course.  BTW - Expert Chris Graber was just on another planet.  Phenomenal.   I - on the other hand - was very much on THIS planet with my riding.  But my back held up as did the MC5, with the exception of a front flat tire halfway thru my last lap. Kudos to Dale for his great finish, never did get the story from James Lubniewski (Skiracer) for his CC race (sorry for not asking James...).

Great fun watching the Vintage racing on Saturday, particularly the Guy Cooper and Dakota Kessler (son of Mickey) battles.  Ron Lechian was also screaming pretty good on a Can-Am.

It took 4 motos for me to finally get it right in the PVMX on Sunday, but I enjoyed myself overall, even with mid-pack finishes. Great racing with Rob Shofstahl (did I spell that right?) and James (Ski) who kicked my ass in the 2nd 250 Historic Int moto. When it comes to Unadilla, I need to come up with a quick way to move to a firmer set-up with my suspension, particularly my forks.  What works in the woods was beating the crap out me in a few spots on that awesome Unadilla MX track.

Next stop in our NE region...Allens Farm in a couple of weeks.  The MC5 needs some TLC, and a new chain and rear sprocket!:)

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Post by: Gordon Brennan on June 18, 2013, 11:42:34 AM
One of my favorite Unadilla moments, off the bike.

(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj52/Gordo83/3671a28f-9c1a-4950-8e66-a18c9aecc5a6.jpg) (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/Gordo83/media/3671a28f-9c1a-4950-8e66-a18c9aecc5a6.jpg.html)
Title: unadilla
Post by: chicagojerry on June 19, 2013, 11:06:38 AM
i stopped at niagara falls to be with a fellow racer from texas who got married there so i got back home late monday night. it was a great weekend. thanks everyone for the kind words of encouragement. by the time the racing rolled around, i was pretty whupped already. so thats the excuse i'm using for my poor results. ;)
i have diamond don and wes willis camped in my yard as we speak, gary davis will be there this afternoon. they are stickin around to make the medina oh ahrma race. after this weekend, back to just a normal, less frantic pace.    chi jer
Title: unadilla
Post by: Mike Rosso on June 19, 2013, 07:45:51 PM
Quotequote:i have diamond don and wes willis camped in my yard as we speak, gary davis will be there this afternoon. they are stickin around to make the medina oh ahrma race.


You of course lock all of the doors at night.....:D..;)


I thought Wes was heading back? Does that mean I do have to show up at Smith Road this weekend, I wonder if Steve Fox will show up?
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Post by: chicagojerry on June 21, 2013, 08:22:31 AM
hey mike. i asked wes and he said that steve fox is not coming.
 chi jer