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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: brian kirby on September 29, 2013, 10:00:04 PM

Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: brian kirby on September 29, 2013, 10:00:04 PM
I've got several tanks that were coated with Caswell and now they are worthless because the coating is peeling off. I've tried putting things like big nuts a bolts in them to break the loose stuff off, but it continues to peel. Since they are basically useless as they are, I am thinking of cutting them apart, removing the coatings, and glassing them back together. Has anyone done this? If so where did you cut? If no one has done it, what are the opinions on where I should cut?

Brian
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: checkcrew on September 30, 2013, 07:39:43 AM
Brian,

by no means am i an expert on fiberglass,
but if you have a body shop in your area that specializes in Corvetts i would take the tank to them for an opinion or a good boat yard that does fiberglass repair,

hope this helps,

PS: say hello to Ernie for me :-))

regards,

Mike Gallagher, NJ.
[email protected]
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: brian kirby on September 30, 2013, 08:14:20 PM
I raced jet skis for years so I have a lot of glassing experience, I was just wondering what people thought would be the best way to cut the tank open. I am thinking on the bottom just inside the bond flange, that would keep the structural integrity of the top and you wouldnt have to deal with the filler neck.

Brian
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on October 01, 2013, 02:29:44 AM
Hey Brian;
    I would try to find one that is damaged already as a guinea pig, and measure up a couple of inches from the bottom flange into the tunnel area, and draw a line all the way around. Then gut it on this line. All you want to do is be able to reach in and scrub the inside, correct? get it like you want it, then epoxy a layer of glass to form a lip on the inside of the tank. This would give you a good mating surface to bond the cut out piece to. Epoxy that piece in, with a layer of glass over the resulting seam to help seal everything.and give you something to sand. This should accomplish all that you want to do, and keep the outer surfaces untouched. I was curious how the giys that restore aluminum tanks did what they do, and they essentially do something similar by grinding away the welds that hold the tunnel section to the top of the tank. If they grind away too much material, they can always weld in more. You can't doo that with fiberglass, obviously, but going in through the bottom like I described seems like the logical path. Good luck with it and let us know your progress, maybe with some pictures along the way?
  Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: brian kirby on October 01, 2013, 07:39:23 AM
Thats what I was thinking too, but with the Penton's having the leather strap on the top, you could cut it in half, but the problem there is the filler neck.

I have 4-5 tanks that look good on the outside but are unusable as a rider because of the peeling Caswell coating.

Brian
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: thrownchain on October 01, 2013, 07:45:26 AM
Open it up from the bottom.
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: Kip Kern on October 01, 2013, 12:59:14 PM
Bottom line, don't coat them! Drain them after you use them.  I have never seen a coating that works yet very well without peeling or bubbling.
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: brian kirby on October 01, 2013, 06:18:37 PM
I didnt coat them Kip, they were already coated when I got the tanks. I dont use ethanol gas anyway, and protection from ethanol is the only reason to coat one in the first place.

Brian
Title: Cutting open a Penton tank...
Post by: joe novak on October 02, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
I would consider cutting the tank around the circumference somewhere between the filler cap and the seat area (like cutting a loaf of bread).    Get in there and clean it out, then fiberglass it back together.