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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Paul Danik on November 02, 2013, 08:55:51 AM

Title: Spoke question
Post by: Paul Danik on November 02, 2013, 08:55:51 AM
A friend doing a Steel Tanker restoration recently called Buchannon to order spokes, they said their spokes are listed as fitting the 73-74 125 machines.   Question is, will those spokes work on a later Steel Tanker, 70 - 71 ? The fellow doing the restoration is away from home on work assignment and wants to get the spokes ordered while away if possible so he can build the wheels when he gets a weekend at home.

Thanks,
Paul
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Doug Knight on November 02, 2013, 12:00:20 PM
I have experience with Buchannon spoke and wheel. Measure the length you are trying to replace and they can verify what you need. Not sure if this is helping as I only had experience with '72+ Penton.

While not cheap the gang there work hard, I deal mostly with Angel there and has a great attitude on getting everything you want right.

 
Doug
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Randy Kirkbride on November 02, 2013, 02:24:44 PM
Paul, I have ran into two different length spokes due to two different laceing patterns.
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Mickey Sergeant on November 02, 2013, 04:52:25 PM
Need to know if you have a cross two or three pattern
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Paul Danik on November 02, 2013, 06:31:37 PM
Thanks guys, he is away from home and can't check till he gets off of this job. I will pass the word along.

Paul
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Dale Fisher on November 03, 2013, 07:13:14 AM
I ordered both my rims (CWC Stainless) and spokes (Buchannon Stainless) thru Speed and Sport.  Correct me if I'm wrong but the correct pattern is considered a cross four.  The outside spokes needed to be tapped with a plastic hammer for the proper angle.  Note the nipples are chromed and damage easily and apply some lubricant at installation prior to tightening.  Even with all of the above rust formed at the rim after a good dose of rain and dampness at VMD  [V]

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Title: Spoke question
Post by: thrownchain on November 03, 2013, 08:28:25 AM
That's a cross 2 pattern. From the hub to the rim, the spoke crosses over 2 spokes before it gets to the rim. (on the same side of the hub).
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Lew Mayer on November 03, 2013, 09:57:00 AM
It's actually cross three because it crosses the first one right by the hub.

Lew Mayer
Title: Spoke question
Post by: tofriedel on November 03, 2013, 11:28:54 AM
I agree with Lew.  It is a cross 3 pattern.

Tony
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Mickey Sergeant on November 03, 2013, 11:57:15 AM
Thats a cross 3 pattern. Laced 2 rims last year with Buchannon spokes from speed and sport.
Title: Spoke question
Post by: thrownchain on November 03, 2013, 12:17:36 PM
My bad, cross 3 it is.
Title: Spoke question
Post by: Rocket on November 03, 2013, 05:49:27 PM
Not totally sure, but I don't think any of the steel tankers had a cross 3 pattern originally.  In fact, I believe most of the 72 bikes were a cross 2 pattern.
Title: Spoke question
Post by: gooddirt on November 04, 2013, 11:46:22 PM
Cross Two; until the 32mm 7 inch travel fork and larger triples set up (72and halfish)  is what I have found.