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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: KJDonovan on February 02, 2014, 05:45:37 PM

Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 02, 2014, 05:45:37 PM

Looking for a used center stand for a 75 Penton.

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Kip Kern on February 03, 2014, 08:32:06 AM
Parmabike on Ebay
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 03, 2014, 10:17:09 AM
Kip,

Checked there, nothing for 74.5 to 77.

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Kip Kern on February 03, 2014, 12:23:17 PM
Kevin, Roberto can't get one made for you in Italy[?]?
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: 454MRW on February 03, 2014, 01:32:39 PM
I'm not sure there were center stands available during those years until the 77-78 GS-6 models. I have a later NOS one if you want to try and fabricate a mount for it. mrwinter427@Hotmail.com for pics. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1979 Husqvarna OR390
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
1974 CR250M 07 CR125R 79 CR250R
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Kip Kern on February 03, 2014, 02:14:18 PM

Last summer, I bought a centerstand from Roberto for the 77 175 I restored.  They bolt directly to the swingarm on the 77/78 and work great!  They also have them for the 72 up KTM frames, Roberto will know for sure.
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: 454MRW on February 03, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
You could always install a 77 GS-6 swingarm on the 75 400 Cross Country, which would provide mounting for the GS-6 center stand. The only issues would be the correct length shocks because of different positioning of the shock mounts on the swingarm, and the possibility of needing to shorten the center stand because of the lower ride height of the 75 compared to the 77 GS-6. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1979 Husqvarna OR390
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
1974 CR250M 07 CR125R 79 CR250R
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Dale Fisher on February 03, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
Not Roberto but this one was listed previously (scroll down).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1975-1976-Penton-KTM-175-250-400-Center-Stand-GS-Six-Days-/171213492189?nma=true&si=BuiMUc7vafRX3hht3Coa%252BWl9%252BuY%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Might be a similar one on the Pillon Dorina site (select prodotti).

http://www.pillondorino.com/HomePage.htm

Dale Fisher
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Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 04, 2014, 07:47:54 AM
Mike,

Just sent you an email.  Dale thanks for the link to the photo that is helpful, if I can't find something close at least I have an idea as to what they originally looked like so I can fab one.  I know this bike originally had a center stand, there were a couple of small remnants still attached to the frame through the tubes the footpegs mount to. I don't know if it came with the bike or if it was something the owner made.   Also I know Daniel McEntee was trying to make one up for 73-75 frames (http://www.pentonusa.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14980&SearchTerms=Center+Stand ) I was hoping he had the dimensions so I could build one as well.

Thanks,

Kevin


Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: 454MRW on February 04, 2014, 10:03:27 AM
Kevin,
After conferring yesterday on the phone with previous Penton dealer and restoration Guru, Dave Sanders, we discussed whether or not the 73-76 Penton KTM powered bikes ever had a center stand, and Dave was also of the opinion that there was not a production center stand available for those models, and I have never seen one myself either. That is not to say that some special purpose bikes such as ISDT or custom modified bikes ever were outfitted with one. After the Sachs models that had center stands that attached inside of the footpeg tubes, it was the GS-6 models that were introduced in 1977 and also 78 that the center stands were optional with a swingarm mounted center stand. The standard swingarm only had provisions for a side stand and the center stand utilized a different part # for the corresponding swingarm. I am currently charging the battery on my camera to send you the pics of the later model center stand that you might be able to utilize for your project. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1979 Husqvarna OR390
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
1974 CR250M 07 CR125R 79 CR250R
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: chicagojerry on February 04, 2014, 10:32:45 AM
](http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx339/chicagojerry/20130707_1812122pentoncenterstand_zps63d08f62.jpg)[/URL]
here is a 250 that i recently mounted one on. its the only pic i have right now. the stand itself mounted to the frame after drilling a hole through the footpeg tube. it took some playing with it and it seemed like it was a little lower than i liked when in the tucked position but i was pretty satisfied with it. chi jer
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: wade195 on February 04, 2014, 11:23:30 AM
Yes it is. I love it on my bike.

Thanks Jerry you did a great job.

The stand came from Parma.

If you want more pictures, just let me know.

I am out of town holding classes this week but will be back Friday night.

God Bless

Doug Wade




Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 04, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Mike,

You friend Dave's explanation makes sense, the bike I am working on was an ISDT qualifier bike and I suspect the stand that was originally on there was added after the fact.

Thanks,

Kevin.

Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: chicagojerry on February 05, 2014, 10:34:03 AM
here is the reply back from roberto/parmabike in response to my question about the centerstand.    chi jer

Dear shicagojerry,

Jerry,
I am out of them but if you are not in a hurry I will have them in about a month.

Thanks
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on February 05, 2014, 02:33:10 PM
Hi Guys;
    I was fortunate to get the center stand that KTMTOM had listed on evilBay. I think Tom got it in a batch of Penton parts he bought, and it has the look of being a factory part. The stand in chicagojerry's photo is just like mine, so it must be correct. I did a ton of searching on the list and internet and studied the photos of Paul Danik's ISDT bike and other photos and came to the conclusion that it mounted like chijerry describes. The local guy that I get my stuff from was a Penton dealer back in that time period and he remembers that a center stand was a HiPoint accessory item available separately. If Roberto's guy repops them and he was the original OEM supplier back then, then I would have to believe his should be correct also. This stand is pretty simple and would be easy to duplicate. I can't get to any projects like that right now, but would try to provide detailed photos, sketches and dimensions for anyone that wants to fabricate their own. I intend to duplicate several for myself for my '73, and the 74/75 project bikes I have in progress. I try to put a center stand on all of my bikes if possible. Besides making them more "ISDTish" it is easier to stack bikes in the shed if they are standing straight up.
   Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
  PS to add: The item you need in addition to the center stand is a bracket for the return spring that is supposed to mount on the inside of the frame near the right foot peg. I haven't had time to research that further and don't know what it looks like exactly. Anybody got a photo of one of those?
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 05, 2014, 02:56:42 PM
Daniel,

Can you make me up a sketch with some dimensions so I can fab one?

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: fischercycle on February 05, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
HELLO MR.  KJ, WE AT FISCHER CYCLE HAVE 11 OF THESE CENTER MOUNT KICK STANDS  FOR YOUR 1975 KTM 250CC FOR A BARGAIN YOU CANT PASS UP, THESE ARE THE ORIGINAL ONES, NO KNOCK OFFS,  I HAD  SOME LISTED ABOUT A YEAR AGO I SOLD SOME OF THEM, BEING YOU  ARE A POG MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING I (':D') ,YOUR PRICE $20.00 POSTAGE 12.00 send a check after you get it ok.you even get to try it first,befor  you pay.. ALL I NEED IS YOUR ADDRESS THANKS 271 JAKE
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 05, 2014, 06:10:53 PM
Jake,

Thanks a bunch!  My mailing address is;

Kevin Donovan
118 Plainwoods Rd
Foster, RI 02825

Thanks!

Kevin

Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: StephenRead on February 05, 2014, 09:55:30 PM
Hi Jake - I too am restoring a 75 250 Enduro and would like to get a 6-days center stand as you mention.  Can I PM you with my shipping address and info ?
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: 454MRW on February 06, 2014, 02:35:30 AM
There is currently no working PM on this site.
Jake,
I also would like a center stand. My address is:
Michael R. Winter
16251 N. 1550th St.
Newton, IL. 62448

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1979 Husqvarna OR390
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
1974 CR250M 07 CR125R 79 CR250R
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Kip Kern on February 06, 2014, 08:18:10 AM
Jake

Please send one my way for my 76 400GS resto, thanks!  And thanks too for the parts for those 10 7 speed Hercs that I'm building, so far, so good!  Kip
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Kip Kern on February 06, 2014, 08:19:30 AM
Kip Kern
7696E 100S
Marion, IN 46953

Sorry!
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: sixdazed on February 06, 2014, 11:49:51 AM
Jake,I want to jump on the centerstand bandwagon.Here's my info:
   Ric Emmal
   2930 w. Yorkshire st.
   Tucson,Az.
             85742
                     Thanks!
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: 242 on February 06, 2014, 12:00:34 PM
Jake, If you have any of the center stands left I would like one.
Thanks Dave

David Sanders
R.R. #3 Box 392
Lawrenceville, Ill 62439
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: G Ellis on February 06, 2014, 12:14:02 PM
Jake I would like one.

Gary Ellis
14990 East 400  North Rd
Ridge Farm IL 61870
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: JCHubbard on February 06, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Jake I would like one too.

John Hubbard
7731 Twin Oaks Road
Severn, Maryland 21144

Thank you!
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: StephenRead on February 06, 2014, 03:57:38 PM
Jake I would like one as I mentioned in the previous message for my 75 250 Enduro restoration.

Stephen Read
39 Egret Lane
Aliso Viejo, California  92656

Thank you!
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Joe Murphy on February 07, 2014, 01:52:34 AM
If you have any stands left I'll go for one.
thanks
Joe Murphy
2050 North Dubuque Street
Iowa City, Iowa
52245-1623

319-351-3719
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Lew Mayer on February 07, 2014, 10:34:36 AM
I've got a centerstand but I can't find a sidestand for my '98 KTM RXC.
Those modern bikes are tough to swing a leg over when it's on a stand.
And there's not always level ground for a centerstand at Dual-sport events.

Lew Mayer
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Dennis Jones on February 07, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
Lew, When I had my 640 I put one of these on it.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-motech-sidestand-for-use-with-original-centerstand-ktm-lc4-lc4-adventure-640-all-models

Dennis Jones
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on February 08, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
I waited a while to check in but if there are any left, I could use one or two more for projects in progress. It's easier to buy that build!
   Let me know how to proceed if available.
   Thanks a lot,
   Dan McEntee
  225 Bellm Ln.
 Florissant, MO 63031
  314-575-0791
 dpmcenthusiast @ aol.com
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: Lew Mayer on February 09, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
Thanks , Dennis. Looks like that will work.

Lew Mayer
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: G Ellis on February 20, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
So has anyone received a center stand???
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: KJDonovan on February 20, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
I did.  Already fitted it to the bike. Fits really well.

Thanks,

Kevin

Kevin J. Donovan
Foster, Rhode Island
72 Jack Piner (My Ride)
72 Six Day (Wifes Ride)
71 Suzuki TS125
72 Montesa Cota 123
72 Montesa Cota 123T (Another Project)
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: 454MRW on February 20, 2014, 02:24:48 PM
Nothing received here yet. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1979 Husqvarna OR390
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
1974 CR250M 07 CR125R 79 CR250R
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: StephenRead on February 20, 2014, 07:05:52 PM
Nothing received here yet either although I have no information about a stand being shipped to me from my earlier request.  I am still interested and would like to pay for the stand. Please ship to:  

Stephen Read
39 Egret Lane
Aliso Viejo, California  92656
Title: WTB 75 Penton 400 Center Stand
Post by: gooddirt on March 01, 2015, 05:38:43 PM
What the Heck is this about ? (slipped someone a  twenty)