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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Richard Toghill on July 29, 2014, 04:16:33 PM

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Post by: Richard Toghill on July 29, 2014, 04:16:33 PM
My recently completed 74.5 Hare Scrambler has now run out of sparks. I have had the original motoplat stator rewound (at great expense), and on refitting it I am only getting a very weak spark at he plug. I have tried different plugs, caps, no cap, disconnected the stop button, another coil which I know is good,another rotor and tried standing on one leg whilst whistling Dixie, all with no improvement. Any ideas?? Or should I just junk the lot and fit a new PVL or Electrex system? My sanity is becoming more important than my bank balance.:(:(:(:(
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Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on July 29, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
Richard, I have read that the ignition needs a good ground. I ran a ground wire from the backing plate to the engine mount. I don't know if I needed to do it on mine, I just did it because I read it somewhere.

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Post by: brian kirby on July 29, 2014, 05:30:24 PM
I dont know if it is your problem, but I also run a ground wire from the stator plate to the ground tab on the frame where the coil mounts.

Brian
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Post by: Jason Rowland on July 29, 2014, 07:03:38 PM
A long shot, but if Dixie and a solid ground don't work....I've no knowledge of this particular ignition system, but if there are permanent magnets involved in this affair and they've received a sharp impact, they may have reduced flux density resulting in weak spark, or perhaps one may even have gone missing.
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Post by: Richard Toghill on August 17, 2014, 03:05:46 PM
Seventeen plug caps later - problem solved. Despite the old system working fine with an NGK plug cap, the rewound stator would only give a good spark at the plug with a cap that was basically a direct connection to the HT lead (robbed from a Jawa speedway coil). As the saying goes - every day is a school day.
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Post by: brian kirby on August 17, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
Almost all NGK plug caps are resistor caps which wont work with a Motoplat. The ONLY NGK plug cap that is non-resistor is the LBER.

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Post by: Richard Toghill on August 18, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
I had one of those non-resistor NGK caps and that didn't fix the problem - must have been sold a lemon.