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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Dale Sonnenschein on July 01, 2015, 10:45:26 PM

Title: jetting help
Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on July 01, 2015, 10:45:26 PM
I'm trying to get my 73 jackpiner running good for VMD. The problem is when I lug it down it loads up. It has a fresh bore, paper air filter, B9HS plug, 150 main. 30 pilot, I can't read the needle numbers but I have tried all  4 positions. The float level seems good I have adjusted the air screw.  Fresh ethanol free gas at 35:1. I have tried a 35 pilot. The plug is a dark grayish color. The bike runs very good other than low rpm loading up. If I catch it early I can pull in the clutch and clear it out and keep going. Any idea's on what I am missing?

Thanks

73 Jackpiner
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
78 husky cr250
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r
Title: jetting help
Post by: G Ellis on July 02, 2015, 07:15:25 AM
A 9HS is too cold for that motor. You need to run an 8HS. This will make it run better.
Title: jetting help
Post by: brian kirby on July 02, 2015, 08:35:11 AM
Are the needle jet and needle new?

Brian
Title: jetting help
Post by: DKWRACER on July 02, 2015, 09:17:11 AM
Wallowed needle jet?
Tom Brosius
Title: jetting help
Post by: gooddirt on July 02, 2015, 01:19:47 PM
paper air filter ? weak motoplat
Title: jetting help
Post by: 454MRW on July 02, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
Fresh bore? Is this the first time out since rebuilt? It wouldn't be the first time a rag or paper towel wad that was forgotten and left in the exhaust port intended to keep debris out found its way into the exhaust pipe. Also mice tend to build nests in there over the winter months, darn critters. Mike

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Title: jetting help
Post by: fastwillie8568 on July 02, 2015, 08:08:13 PM
My 73 and 74 Jackpiner is 150main 30 pilot 1/1/2 air screw 40:1 spectro and a # 1 needle and a 273  they both run great and my float level is a little low
Title: jetting help
Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on July 02, 2015, 09:32:21 PM
I'll try an 8 tomorrow.
 
Brian and Tom,  Both are original. but I did get a 273 needle jet with the bike. I haven't checked the one in the carb. But I am guessing it's the stock 276. I can't tell the numbers on the 2 needles I have.

Mike, I only rode it briefly before the bore but it did it then too.

Gooddirt, I was going to pick up a filter at VMD and see what it does.

Maybe I'll pull the carb tomorrow and see what needle jet it has, and try the 273.
Thanks for the help, I'll post my progress.

73 Jackpiner
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
78 husky cr250
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r
Title: jetting help
Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on July 02, 2015, 11:09:20 PM
Ok, I  got a little ambition tonight. I pulled the carb and it had a 276 needle jet. I put the 273 in with the skinnier needle ( it was in the bike when I got it) 2nd groove. I don't see a number on either needle but one looks fatter. I'll do a test ride tomorrow. Hopefully this will help. I'll get a B8HS tomorrow too.
Thanks again for the help

73 Jackpiner
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
78 husky cr250
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r
Title: jetting help
Post by: brian kirby on July 03, 2015, 08:12:09 AM
If the needle jet and needle are not new then you found the problem.

Brian
Title: jetting help
Post by: Dale Sonnenschein on July 03, 2015, 09:32:10 PM
SO I put a new plug, B8HS in and the 273 needle jet and it ran pretty good. In the end I wound up being just what it shows in the manual except the 273 jet. Now the bike runs real good and it hasn't loaded up on my last test ride. Thanks for the help. See you all at VMD

73 Jackpiner
73 Husky 360 WR/RT
76 Husky WR360
78 husky cr250
82 husky wr430
10 ktm 250xc
02 bmw r1150r