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Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 12, 2016, 02:50:10 PM

I'm looking at an ad for a 1976 Penton MC5 and the asking price is $2,200.00. The engine is frozen.

What is it worth?

The serial number is 5460 89550.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Bryan

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: 454MRW on August 12, 2016, 03:21:31 PM

If that is the frame number, as opposed to the engine serial number, it is not an MC5, it is a 76 Cross Country. Either way with a frozen engine not worth 2200. I sold a very nice rideable restored 76 MC5 250 myself for 2,200 ready to ride or race few years back at Mid-Ohio to another POG member. Pics would help determine current value. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: brian kirby on August 12, 2016, 03:24:24 PM

Its not worth $1200 if the engine is frozen.

Brian

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 12, 2016, 05:50:13 PM

Hello, Michael.

Thank you for your reply.

Here is the link with a couple pics;

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/5678247001.html

Bryan

If that is the frame number, as opposed to the engine serial number, it is not an MC5, it is a 76 Cross Country. Either way with a frozen engine not worth 2200. I sold a very nice rideable restored 76 MC5 250 myself for 2,200 ready to ride or race few years back at Mid-Ohio to another POG member. Pics would help determine current value. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

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Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 12, 2016, 05:53:59 PM

Michael,

The frame number is actually 54604 89550.

Is it a Cross Country Model?

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by Bryan Adams

Hello, Michael.

Thank you for your reply.

Here is the link with a couple pics;

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/5678247001.html

Bryan

If that is the frame number, as opposed to the engine serial number, it is not an MC5, it is a 76 Cross Country. Either way with a frozen engine not worth 2200. I sold a very nice rideable restored 76 MC5 250 myself for 2,200 ready to ride or race few years back at Mid-Ohio to another POG member. Pics would help determine current value. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

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Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 12, 2016, 05:55:41 PM

Brian,

Thank you for your reply. That's what I thought. I offered them $800.00 but they wouldn't take it.

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by Bryan Adams

Hello, Michael.

Thank you for your reply.

Here is the link with a couple pics;

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/5678247001.html

Bryan

If that is the frame number, as opposed to the engine serial number, it is not an MC5, it is a 76 Cross Country. Either way with a frozen engine not worth 2200. I sold a very nice rideable restored 76 MC5 250 myself for 2,200 ready to ride or race few years back at Mid-Ohio to another POG member. Pics would help determine current value. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

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Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: 454MRW on August 12, 2016, 06:04:51 PM

Yes it is a cross-country model, because the serial number starts with 604 which means the bike was built April of 76. A 76 MC5 would have 550 as the beginning numbers of the serial number after the size designation 54. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: brian kirby on August 12, 2016, 07:21:52 PM

The MC5 is a more desirable bike, though that does not mean the Cross Country is undesirable, but the MC5 is a newer generation of chassis. I dont think a '76 Cross Country would be worth $2200 ready to ride, an MC5 maybe.

Brian

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Rocket on August 12, 2016, 08:20:21 PM

It's also a 175cc bike.
RCG

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: 454MRW on August 13, 2016, 01:16:33 AM

I thought it was a 175 from the pipe exhaust tip design. The 54- frame designation was used on 175, 250, and 400's as well. The 250 would have a chrome conical shaped outlet. A 76 175 engine ID would start with 6-52 above the ignition cover on the right hand side of the engine. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 13, 2016, 10:43:53 AM

Michael,

I am in the market for a 1970'S MC5 250 or 400.

Please let me know if you run across one.

Best regards,

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

Yes it is a cross-country model, because the serial number starts with 604 which means the bike was built April of 76. A 76 MC5 would have 550 as the beginning numbers of the serial number after the size designation 54. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: 454MRW on August 13, 2016, 02:30:53 PM

I have upcoming 76 MC5 250 projects that have yet to be started, but none with the original engines currently. Silver framed MC5 Penton or KTM's were built in 76 and 77, and the orange framed KTM only designated MC5's were built in 1978 only. I have a 78 MC5 chassis and tank also. MC5 were only built for 3 years. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 13, 2016, 04:21:10 PM

Please keep me in mind if you come across a 250 or 400 from the 70's. I want to ride in vintage motocross races in Texas.

Best regards,

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

I have upcoming 76 MC5 250 projects that have yet to be started, but none with the original engines currently. Silver framed MC5 Penton or KTM's were built in 76 and 77, and the orange framed KTM only designated MC5's were built in 1978 only. I have a 78 MC5 chassis and tank also. MC5 were only built for 3 years. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 13, 2016, 05:30:40 PM

Mike,

Can you tell me what model this bike is;

Frame # 54 411 79195
Engine# 4- 5500794

Thank you,

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

I thought it was a 175 from the pipe exhaust tip design. The 54- frame designation was used on 175, 250, and 400's as well. The 250 would have a chrome conical shaped outlet. A 76 175 engine ID would start with 6-52 above the ignition cover on the right hand side of the engine. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Rocket on August 13, 2016, 09:46:05 PM

You have a 1975 400. The 411 means it was built in November of 1974. The 55 in the engine number designates a 400.
RCG

Quotequote:Originally posted by Bryan Adams

Mike,

Can you tell me what model this bike is;

Frame # 54 411 79195
Engine# 4- 5500794

Thank you,

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

I thought it was a 175 from the pipe exhaust tip design. The 54- frame designation was used on 175, 250, and 400's as well. The 250 would have a chrome conical shaped outlet. A 76 175 engine ID would start with 6-52 above the ignition cover on the right hand side of the engine. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 15, 2016, 11:17:52 AM

Thank you.

I appreciate the help.

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by Rocket

You have a 1975 400. The 411 means it was built in November of 1974. The 55 in the engine number designates a 400.
RCG

Quotequote:Originally posted by Bryan Adams

Mike,

Can you tell me what model this bike is;

Frame # 54 411 79195
Engine# 4- 5500794

Thank you,

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

I thought it was a 175 from the pipe exhaust tip design. The 54- frame designation was used on 175, 250, and 400's as well. The 250 would have a chrome conical shaped outlet. A 76 175 engine ID would start with 6-52 above the ignition cover on the right hand side of the engine. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Nick on August 17, 2016, 12:01:12 PM

Check out the Wanted/For Sale section. toocloseracing had a 1976 250 MC5 for sale as of August 8.

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 18, 2016, 10:14:26 AM

Thank you, Nick. I am talking to him about it.

He's asking $2,500.00 but said he'll knock off $250.00 because it needs a new motoplat.

What do you think of the price? Is it fair?

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by Nick

Check out the Wanted/For Sale section. toocloseracing had a 1976 250 MC5 for sale as of August 8.

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Larry Perkins on August 18, 2016, 11:52:21 AM

It is a well sorted out bike. Wish I could buy it. My advice if you want a nice MC5 is buy it, put a PVL on it, and never look back. The MC5 Penton is one of my all time fave bikes and I have raced a jillion bikes over the years. It was a couple of years ahead of it's time and in 76-77 was many privateer pros bike of choice.

Larry P

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 18, 2016, 12:05:17 PM

Larry, I appreciate the advice.

I'm struggling between a 250 and a 400.

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by Larry Perkins

It is a well sorted out bike. Wish I could buy it. My advice if you want a nice MC5 is buy it, put a PVL on it, and never look back. The MC5 Penton is one of my all time fave bikes and I have raced a jillion bikes over the years. It was a couple of years ahead of it's time and in 76-77 was many privateer pros bike of choice.

Larry P

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Larry Perkins on August 18, 2016, 04:07:08 PM

The 250 is far easier to ride but the 400 is doable with the bigger flywheel and short shifting it so you stay out of the big hit.

Larry P

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: Bryan Adams on August 18, 2016, 04:26:07 PM

Thank you for that. I have been riding 250 Huskys and they don't do well on big hills. I do a lot of trail riding here in Texas.

Bryan

Quotequote:Originally posted by Larry Perkins

The 250 is far easier to ride but the 400 is doable with the bigger flywheel and short shifting it so you stay out of the big hit.

Larry P

Title: 1976 Penton MC5 250?
Post by: tooclose racing on August 21, 2016, 08:46:01 AM

I knocked a few bucks and advised Bryan to put it towards a PVL ignition, I already have the coil. No current issues, but my other Pentons are full PVL and I'm convinced it's the way to go - would have done the same with the 250 if I had kept it.

Mr. Adams is all in, we are making arrangement. Thanks for the referral, guys.

Penton Owners Group

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