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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Scott Summey on September 14, 2016, 07:19:04 PM

Title: Tied and soldered spokes
Post by: Scott Summey on September 14, 2016, 07:19:04 PM
Anyone ever tie and solder their spokes??? Taking apart 74.5 Jackpiner wheels today and found that the rear wheel was tied at the crosses. Being in the bicycle industry I remember back in the 70's/80's where we would tie and solder track wheels for stiffness and strength, just never seen or heard of it in the motorcycle industry.

rear wheel
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Scott Summey
Jacksonville, Florida
Title: Tied and soldered spokes
Post by: paul a. busick on September 14, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
Hi,  Back in the day when spokes were not a strong as they are today we would safety wire them together where they crossed.  This was done before an event and checked after the event.  Should a spoke break during the event the safety wire would hold the broken spoke in place and keep it from flailing about and doing more damage.  As to the soldering.  I have never heard of that.  I would think that doing so would make a hard spot that would lead to breaking spokes and causing a major wheel collapse.  Amherst Paul
Title: Tied and soldered spokes
Post by: thrownchain on September 14, 2016, 10:09:50 PM
Not a good idea, the spokes need to be able to move, I can see tying them together, not making them solid.
Title: Tied and soldered spokes
Post by: Kip Kern on September 15, 2016, 06:27:38 AM
Man, I have cut and cussed a lot of those when restoring bikes.  Agreed, spokes have to flex and move to do their intended job.  Also love the folks who "swiss cheese" their machines to save 1 oz. of weight on a 200 pound machine (like it really helps).  Welded up a bunch of that also!:(
Title: Tied and soldered spokes
Post by: LeeBuff on September 15, 2016, 10:28:01 PM
I have used small gray zip ties on spokes back in the day and still use them. They will flex with the spokes and hold them in place.  
 Lee Buffenmyer
Title: Tied and soldered spokes
Post by: charles f call jr on September 17, 2016, 04:15:46 PM
My 71 six day stripped down mxer the rear spokes are wire tied and have been since I bought it in 1975 76ish