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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Jeffrey Matyas on February 11, 2017, 01:34:33 PM

Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Jeffrey Matyas on February 11, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
Guys, looking to upgrade to a PVL or Powerdynamo on my 1979 250 GS80.
I have read all I can about each system and can deal with the headlight and taillights by either running a modern battery setup or powering it off the system. Just looking for your experience on which one is better or any real issues with either one? I am ok with the stock Motoplat but it acts up after a half hour of riding and is a bit hit-and-miss at times.
Also, any setup issues or setting to watch for would be great. Thanks for any replies. -Jeff
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: ALB on February 14, 2017, 12:41:10 PM
Hi Jeff,

I installed a Powerdynamo on my Jackpiner a few years ago. It works great. No need for a battery. The rear brake light lights up with the bike just idling. Not having a working brake light at an idle with the old MotoPlat system always concerned me since I ride the bike on the streets. In heavy traffic I would have to make sure that I pulled the clutch in and kept the revs up when coming to a stop.

The only issue that I had with it was the flywheel slipping when the power band would hit. My fault because I did not clean the crank end and the inside of the flywheel from the little bit of oil that was on them. After cleaning them real good the bike runs fine.

Alan Buehner
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Jeffrey Matyas on February 14, 2017, 05:40:17 PM
Thanks Alan! So go with the DC system and just run a condenser (or maybe a small battery as an option). Or did you just go with the AC system?

I just looked and I assume you sell just the AC system?

Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Oldebonz on February 14, 2017, 05:46:22 PM
Have this system on my 100 Berkshire,flawless!1 Powers lights and stop bulb very ell,I use 12v bulbs,as good as older Japanese trail bikes.
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: ALB on February 16, 2017, 01:37:06 PM
I used the AC system for use without a battery.

The units that I have in stock are all AC systems.

Alan Buehner
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Koen Cuypers on March 01, 2017, 04:35:05 PM
....or

http://www.hpi.be ;)

For SACHS 125cc Engine

HPI in -or outside rotor:

      068K249   
      210K249

Grts, Koen
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: WVDingo on April 20, 2018, 08:37:26 AM
Sorry to revive an old thread, but is there any reason why the outside rotor unit wouldn't work on a B motor? HPI lists it for the "5 gears".

https://www.hpi.be/item.php?item=210K249
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: G Ellis on April 20, 2018, 09:15:26 AM
WVDingo give me a call, I can help you. I am set up as a dealer and have installed these on a sachs motor. My number is 217 260 0237. The HPI system is half price of a Powerdynamo.
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: SouthRider on April 20, 2018, 10:07:28 AM
Gary,

These systems are very interesting. New options for old bikes.

Curious about the diesel controllers. I have a "new" 2015 Audi Q7 tdi that has been patched with the epa approved fix for the VW pollution scandal.

Great engine, nice power, fantastic fuel economy for a heavy SUV.

It does suffer from pretty serious turbo lag off idle. I have a Banks controller on my Duramax Chevy, and it made a world of difference.

Will any of the listed kits work with the new US spec Q7 3.0 tdi?

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"We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do almost anything, with nothing."

1972 Penton Berkshire 100
1983 Husqvarna 250 XC
2011 Jayco 31.5 RLDS
2009 Chevy 2500 HD Duramax
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Mick Milakovic on April 20, 2018, 10:58:52 AM
Gary installed an HPI on my '73 Jackpiner.  I've done 3, 1-hour hare scramblers and the bike performed flawlessly.  Starts easy, revs nicely, very happy.

Mick
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: G Ellis on April 20, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
SouthRider I don't think we are talking about the same companies. HPI is out of Belgium.
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: SouthRider on April 20, 2018, 09:33:02 PM
Gary, not sure what you mean. I'm looking at the products offered in the links above. Are you a dealer for all of their products? Or just ignitions?

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"We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, that we are now qualified to do almost anything, with nothing."

1972 Penton Berkshire 100
1983 Husqvarna 250 XC
2011 Jayco 31.5 RLDS
2009 Chevy 2500 HD Duramax
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: G Ellis on April 20, 2018, 11:00:40 PM
Yes for all, I haven't look at all products. If you give me a item number I can look it up.
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Husky on April 22, 2018, 08:49:30 PM
Jeff:  I have powerdynamo on my 74 harescrambler.  It is just super, cranks and runs flawlessly.  Ive had it in some pretty wet races and it performed as promised. Got it from Alan.  Easy install too.

1970 Hodaka Super Rat
1974 Penton Harescrambler
1983 Husqvarna XC500
1988 Husqvarna Auto
2004 KTM 450 EXC
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Koen Cuypers on April 28, 2018, 05:44:36 AM
I've been using the HPI ignitions for my Sachs 125 engines for years. Work excellent and have a good price. The company is located at a few dozen kilometers from where I live :)
You have to be careful that the flywheel is properly mounted. There is no key present so correct position is very important.
I always mount these in combination with Loctite 641 (cylindrical mounting) to ensure the cone is properly connected.
Good luck with it.
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Koen Cuypers on December 09, 2018, 11:41:03 AM
Hi, are there any of you who use the HPI kits?
Sometimes, I hear that these don't fit correctly on the Sachs engines?
With my Sachs 1251/5GS and 6GS engines this works perfectly.
I would like to hear your experience with these.
Also the conversion of kits with Motoplat inner rotor works well. Here you can keep the original Motolat flywheel, stator + HV coil must be replaced by HPI.
This kit has no possibility for lighting.
Title: PVL or Powerdynamo?
Post by: Larry Perkins on December 09, 2018, 01:49:00 PM
Call Gary, he knows how to use on the Sachs motor.  He put on these on two of my race bikes this season and they worked flawless.  Started easy, reved well, and made the power over a broad range.  Plus they are a bargain!

Larry P