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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 10:43:22 AM

Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 10:43:22 AM
Howdy, first time in here.

I'm the proud owner of a 1974 175 Jack Piner

It's about a 90% bike and I'm hoping to get it back in running condition.

I also have a frame and engine for what I thought was a 73 250 Hare Scrambler

I used the frame # guide provided in this forum and it's indicating the frame was for a 125.

Can anyone confirm this using the frame # I provided?

54-31169523
Title: Frame model???
Post by: thrownchain on December 08, 2017, 10:49:59 AM
Not a 125 frame.
Title: Frame model???
Post by: ALB on December 08, 2017, 11:09:00 AM
Welcome to the POG forum.

The frame number indicates that it was built in November of 1973.
So, that frame is for the 1973 250 engine.

Alan Buehner
Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 11:22:10 AM
Quotequote:Originally posted by ALB

Welcome to the POG forum.

The frame number indicates that it was built in November of 1973.
So, that frame is for the 1973 250 engine.

Alan Buehner
Thanks for the welcome and quick response.

I guess I was mis-reading the frame # explanation. It's a tad confusing. I live in NH and I'm going to title the frame before I sell it. So it was important to know the model it belongs to.

Another question.

Is the magneto the same for the 74 175 Jack Piner and 73 Hare Scramble 250? I was going to keep it as a spare, as well as other items from the 250 engine. I'm use to being able to cross reference vintage Japanese models but haven't found a resource for the cross referencing of Penton parts.
Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 11:23:25 AM
Quotequote:Originally posted by thrownchain

Not a 125 frame.
Thanks, I didn't think so.
Title: Frame model???
Post by: Larry Perkins on December 08, 2017, 12:55:47 PM
A frame with that November marking is a 1974 model because it is after August therefore the next year.  54 is a 250 designation.


Larry P
Title: Frame model???
Post by: 454MRW on December 08, 2017, 01:27:56 PM
I have an early 1974 red tank Hare Scrambler 250 frame # 54 31169374 with engine # 3-5401964. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
Title: Frame model???
Post by: skiracer on December 08, 2017, 01:41:24 PM
Welcome to the group!

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
1985 20' Hi Point trailer
Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 02:36:42 PM
Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

I have an early 1974 red tank Hare Scrambler 250 frame # 54 31169374 with engine # 3-5401964. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Ahhhh, it was red.
Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 02:37:22 PM
Quotequote:Originally posted by Larry Perkins

A frame with that November marking is a 1974 model because it is after August therefore the next year.  54 is a 250 designation.


Larry P
thanks.
Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 02:42:18 PM
So, I've now read it's a 73 and 74. ????

The engine serial # is 3-5401944

Doesn't the 3 designate it as a 73? The arrow on the cases is pointing at the 10 which I believe means Oct.

As with Japanese models anything built after the 6 month pushes it's year model into the nxt. year. Is this the case here?
Title: Frame model???
Post by: 454MRW on December 08, 2017, 03:21:03 PM
3-designates that it was built in 73, but it is a 74 model. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
Title: Frame model???
Post by: robertrivet on December 08, 2017, 03:41:23 PM
Quotequote:Originally posted by 454MRW

3-designates that it was built in 73, but it is a 74 model. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978-1979 MX-6 175 & 250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

Right-on, thanks.