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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: WVDingo on April 06, 2018, 09:06:59 PM

Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 06, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
I am looking for an unusable tank. I have a 73 Six Days. I want the tank as a form to build a fiberglass mold with. I want to make a duplicate tank to use for running the bike and save my original. I do not want to risk damaging a good, usable original tank.

If successful, would anyone else want one?
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: thrownchain on April 06, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
I've got one you can have for the cost of shipping. You'll have to do some "tweeking" to get it useable for making a mold.
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 06, 2018, 09:25:24 PM
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Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: thrownchain on April 06, 2018, 09:37:15 PM
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Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on April 07, 2018, 09:46:32 AM
Could you not just carve two molds ( a right half and left half) from wood? Measure up a tank and and carve to match dimensions. I would guess that if you could make a good replica of the flat sided enduro tank, you could sell all you could make, especially if you could match the gel coat colors.I have a '73 Harescrambler that has the peanut tank and will have to paint a SixDays tank to get what I want for the bike.
   Type at you later,
  Dan McEntee
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Pat Oshaughnessy on April 07, 2018, 12:07:47 PM
New tanks are for sale from Pillon Dorino in Italy. Just figure out how to do all the B. S. of getting it here.:)
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: 454MRW on April 07, 2018, 01:46:25 PM
Other than through Kip Kern which has a connection to someone close to there. Roberto Pettinato AKA Parmabike on eBay is the main importer of Pillon Dorino's parts into the US. Roberto offers 10% discounts for direct purchases by POG members.

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Penton
1976 MC5 400
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 07, 2018, 04:54:38 PM
I thought about carving out of wood, and that has not been ruled out. But having a tank to use takes a lot of the work out of it. I am actively looking for someone to color match gelcoat; have a lead. I found metal necks and caps that could be used (do not look like originals).  Some boat tanks are fiberglass so I just need to figure out what resin they use. If I'm making a tank, may as well make it resistant to ethanol as well.
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 07, 2018, 04:56:47 PM
I'm certainly going to be willing to build tanks for people if I get it figured out. Hopefully it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: 454MRW on April 07, 2018, 04:58:00 PM
Marine fuels are ethanol free I believe. The fiberglass they use may be the same. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Penton
1976 MC5 400
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 07, 2018, 05:08:40 PM
They've started putting ethanol in it. Problematic for the guys with fiberglass tanks. I'm looking there bc I figure that's the first place that may come up with a solution.
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: KJDonovan on April 08, 2018, 05:59:32 PM
Pat mentioned Pillon Dorino, so I figured I would throw this out there.  Getting tanks from Pillon Dorino is relatively easy.  Find someone who is fluent in Italian and have them order for you.  I got a beautiful gold/yellow one last fall for a Hare Scrambler I am building.  With shipping $320 to my door.  Extremely high quality product, actually better than original. I will still seal the inside with Caswell's dragons blood before putting into service just in case it ever sees ethanol based fuels.

Thanks,

Kevin
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Larry Perkins on April 08, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Kevin,

Does he have MX and MC5 tanks also?  I have only seen the toaster tanks he has.

Larry P
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on April 08, 2018, 06:48:55 PM
Quotequote:Originally posted by KJDonovan

Pat mentioned Pillon Dorino, so I figured I would throw this out there.  Getting tanks from Pillon Dorino is relatively easy.  Find someone who is fluent in Italian and have them order for you.  I got a beautiful gold/yellow one last fall for a Hare Scrambler I am building.  With shipping $320 to my door.  Extremely high quality product, actually better than original. I will still seal the inside with Caswell's dragons blood before putting into service just in case it ever sees ethanol based fuels.

Thanks,

Kevin

    Hi Kevin;
  IS there any way I could get a photo of what you have and ordering info? I have a '73 with the p-nut mx tank and want the larger enduro tank for it. I've been stalled on that project due to other stuff and getting the tank I want for it may build a fire under me! Post the photo here or email it to me at [email protected].
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on April 08, 2018, 06:52:54 PM
Quotequote:Originally posted by WVDingo

I'm certainly going to be willing to build tanks for people if I get it figured out. Hopefully it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

   If you do get to this project, and you don't mind us looking over your shoulder, I would like to see what the process is like. I don't think I would tackle the project but I'm interested in seeing how it's done. Some one posted on here before about taking problem tanks , cutting them in half at the original seem, then rejoining them. Does that sound like an option for you?  I would like to see that also. I have never really worked with glass before, but I like hard work, I can watch it all day long!
   Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: 454MRW on April 08, 2018, 09:30:35 PM
Roberto routinely travels to italy and returns with a shipment of Penton products from there, and always comes to Mid-Ohio. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Penton
1976 MC5 400
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: KJDonovan on April 09, 2018, 07:11:23 AM
- Larry,  I am not sure if they have the MX and MC-5 tanks.  I wanted a toaster for this project so that's what I ordered.

- Daniel, I will get out to the shop and snap a picture of it and email it to you.

As for ordering, I called Roberto and had him order for me as I do not speak Italian.  Took about a month to come in.  Arrived very well packed in perfect condition.  

Thanks,

Kevin
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Larry Perkins on April 09, 2018, 09:16:13 AM
All I saw on their website was the toasters so that is why I was not sure. I have nice ones on both Pentons but racing them it could change in a heartbeat.

Larry P
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Pat Oshaughnessy on April 09, 2018, 10:07:04 PM
Larry  I have a extra small mx style tank for 73 gold 250cc. I would like to trade for enduro style. If no trade i will buy anew one from Roberto. Let me Know If you want a trade. Call 209 772 2027.Thanks[:p]
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Larry Perkins on April 10, 2018, 07:49:49 AM
Love those yellow tanks but have no tanks to trade.  Thank you though!

Larry P
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 10, 2018, 09:29:55 AM
Quotequote:Originally posted by Daniel P. McEntee

Quotequote:Originally posted by WVDingo

I'm certainly going to be willing to build tanks for people if I get it figured out. Hopefully it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

   If you do get to this project, and you don't mind us looking over your shoulder, I would like to see what the process is like. I don't think I would tackle the project but I'm interested in seeing how it's done. Some one posted on here before about taking problem tanks , cutting them in half at the original seem, then rejoining them. Does that sound like an option for you?  I would like to see that also. I have never really worked with glass before, but I like hard work, I can watch it all day long!
   Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

I'll be sharing what I try and how it turns out. I'm pretty good at making mistakes. I haven't messed with fiberglass since college.
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: WVDingo on April 10, 2018, 11:52:09 AM
I think I am going to make it use a 22mm bung for the petcock. The ones like the original Pentons are near impossible to find (M16x1.0 I believe). The 22mm gives a lot of affordable options for petcocks that will mount straight to, then there are adapters readily available to go to other sizes. I am aiming to make a tank for a rider anyway.

Thoughts?
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: Larry Perkins on April 10, 2018, 12:25:55 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me.

Larry P
Title: WTB Junk Fiberglass Tank
Post by: R.T.Fischer on April 11, 2018, 07:49:51 AM
If you want to shape a mold for tank, shape it out of EPS foam block( extruded polystyrene)small bead, & glass with epoxy resin. Do not use polyester resin or it will dissolve as you watch.