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Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 19, 2018, 08:31:47 PM
2019 vintage enduro schedule
April 13th Roselawn,In
May 18th Kingsley ,Mi
June 22nd Matthews,In
June 29th Lawton,Mi
July 27th Bentley,Mi
August 17th Moorestown,mi Jack Pine
Sept 21st Greenville,Oh
Sept 28th Fife lake,Mi
Nov 2nd New Paris In
others may be added I will post the flyers or the link to them as they come up
the district has picked up the class now (last year was a trial) we had over 70 vintage bikes try it out and are giving out jackets to 1st thru 3rd and really nice trophies to 5 places thanks to our sponsers Dc plastics, Sticker world ,Capture me photography and Team vintage


1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: skiracer on December 20, 2018, 08:47:20 AM
Impressive!

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 20, 2018, 09:09:07 AM
I hope some of you can join us at a few of these ,way more fun than cross country. I'm not a fan of bunched up traffic in a race,  your out on your own most of the time on these . Plus not all rutted up as you rarely cover the same trail twice . I wish i could post pictures of the trophies ,they are a picture of your bike in one of the enduros really nicely done


1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on December 20, 2018, 12:22:11 PM
Any info available on rules and classes?

Quotequote:Originally posted by 250auto

I hope some of can join us at a few of these ,way more fun than cross country. I'm not a fan of bunched up traffic in a race,  your out on your own most of the time on these . Plus not all rutted up as you rarely cover the same trail twice . I wish i could post pictures of the trophies ,they are a picture of your bike in one of the enduros really nicely done


1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others

Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: Mick Milakovic on December 20, 2018, 12:33:28 PM
Derek, I only did one event last year (Roselawn) and the rules were regular enduro timekeeping.  There were only 6 vintage bikes at the first one, so all were in the same class.  Alex says numbers grew as the season went on, so there will probably be at least a vintage and post vintage class this year, but I'm just guessing.  I have six of those events on my schedule for 2019.

Mick
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 20, 2018, 12:37:28 PM
Sure , only one class at this time just vintage bikes must have two of these three thing air cooled ,drum brake, and or twin shocks. As the class grows we will be adding age groups and a post vintage class

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: Dale Fisher on December 21, 2018, 08:01:33 AM
Is there a host group, organization, or website link to post?

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Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 21, 2018, 09:45:54 AM
yes AMA d14 enduro division FES they do not have the information on the site yet this came from there facebook page and the district meeting two weeks ago here are the links to there web site and facebook page     https://www.ama-d14.org/enduro
https://www.facebook.com/D14Enduro

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: erickz on December 22, 2018, 04:19:56 PM
In general: How many miles total? How many dirt miles? Is there a gas truck or does it loop around? Sound requirement? Street legal required?
This looks great - sorry for all the questions.
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 22, 2018, 07:07:47 PM
most of the clubs put in right around 40 /50 miles ,gas truck at some ,a lot have you come back to the staging area to start the second loop so gas at the pits  all single track very little roads not required to be street legal . A few in Michigan do require Michigan trail permits. Have to have a spark arrestor but only the jack pine does a sound check. All of my bikes have passed with ease,even my rokon and I think it is pretty loud

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: erickz on December 22, 2018, 08:25:57 PM
This sounds great, will attempt to make a few of them.
Thanks!!
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: skiracer on December 22, 2018, 08:50:41 PM
Sounds like fun.... Too far north for me....

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: dennis brown on December 24, 2018, 11:45:14 AM
would any of the clubs want to have a ahrma reunion ride at same event?

dennis l.brown
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 24, 2018, 12:01:30 PM
I would be willing to help and put you in touch with the clubs, one of the reasons we started this series was a group of us just started running ahrma and they dropped the isdts only one last year

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: t20sl on January 05, 2019, 12:34:08 PM
Looking at these dates all are run on Saturdays.  Sat is my busiest work day at the motorcycle dealership.  Too bad these can't be combined with the regular Sunday enduros they precede.  My Elsinore and Puch feel left out.
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on March 22, 2019, 11:30:15 AM
For those  in the know;
Any new news on the vintage / post vintage class structure for this year?
Is pre-enter possible?
AMA and D14 membership required?
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on March 22, 2019, 05:29:16 PM
no memberships are required of any type,still just one class at this time ,a drum brake, air cooled ,and twin shocks . must have at least two of these things .We are hoping to change to vintage and post vintage and age groups as we grow ,youngest regular racer last year was in his late 40's
Al

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on March 22, 2019, 05:36:41 PM
sorry didn't catch the pre entry you can do the whole year in advance $200 and have a minute for the whole year ,you want to be up in the first 10 minutes . Other wise it is up to the clubs if you can pre enter. //www.gktrailriders.com/ link to the first one roselawn April 14th coming up fast


1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on March 24, 2019, 11:26:55 AM
Thanks for the update.
Looks to be a great way for us central and upper Midwesterners to get our vintage/post-vintage fix on.
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: Mick Milakovic on March 25, 2019, 11:34:51 AM
1st event at Roselawn, Indiana is only 3 weeks away

Mick
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: Mick Milakovic on April 17, 2019, 11:44:15 AM
The race came and went without a hitch, great weather and course layout by Jeff Fredette!  Mike Miller from Grand Rapids won the vintage event on a PE250 with 19 dropped points, I dropped 32 for 2nd, and Derek Martin took 3rd.  

The harescrambler ran OK, but i'm convinced i need a bigger carb and am building a 36mm Mikuni for it.  The biggest challenge will be the airbox-to-inlet connection.  It ran great on the top end, but pinged on the bottom from being too lean and would blubber a bit in the mid range.

Next event is in Northwest Michigan at Kingsley.

Mick
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on April 19, 2019, 06:04:03 PM
Yup, what Mick said. Fun event all around. Had me some bike problems but had a good time none the less.
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on April 21, 2019, 10:07:27 AM
Most of these events have road sections ,but Roselawn area requires the bike to be plated so to keep it open to all they do a closed course there. Still one of the most fun ones of the series Can't wait till the next one

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: wildman on May 19, 2019, 01:39:53 PM
I rode the family enduro at Kinsley on Saturday and had a great time.Two loops about 20miles each all on private land virgin trail.Some vintage bikes like pe250 it175 episode no pentons. My bad, I rode ktm 200, 6th place, nice little trophy in 60+.We raised 5600$ for a local charity:). 20$ sign up, no sound test, no sticker needed on this one.I rode Lawton last year and had fun too.

1975 250 Cross Country, 1974 175 Jackpiner, 1975 125
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on May 19, 2019, 07:45:09 PM
You should have looked us up ,we had the Yamaha it 175 and the pe 175 great trails ,but only had 5 vintage bikes . We will look for you at
Lawton ,bring a vintage bike
Al

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on June 21, 2019, 12:56:00 PM
Matthews,in race for tomorrow has been canceled  water levels are two high from all of the rain. Hope to see you at Lawton ,Michigan June 29th

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 14, 2019, 11:05:00 AM
we had a great season this year ,and the district has made this a official class now, they have also added a vintage class to the sprint enduro series ( hare scramble type format)the 2020 schedule will be out soon and I will post it here. A Suzuki pe 250 took first ,Yamaha it 175 2nd and the next 3 places where all late 70's huskys.where are all you Penton riders? I will be racing my Penton 250 next year Jackets went to the first 3 places,hand guards with your name on them to all placement, gifts certificate from dc plastic ,and trophies with your bike and you from one of the events.thanks to our sponsors, Dc plastics, enduro engineering, sticker world and team vintage

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on December 15, 2019, 02:27:40 PM
Planning on doing more of these this coming year.  Large fun.
I've got to do a new piston in the IT - ran too hot plug in the one event I did and purt near killed it and didn't bring any colder plugs. That is what I get for not doing hard test riding on a new bike build.
Any one know if enduro computers are legal for this class? I think I saw one in use. If they are I might install myself.
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: erickz on December 15, 2019, 03:14:28 PM
Please post the schedule when you can - this sounds great!!
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 15, 2019, 09:42:28 PM
2020 fes and vintage enduro
Family Enduro Series:
4/18 - Roselawn IN
5/16 - Kingsley MI
6/13 - Matthews IN
6/27 - Lawton MI
7/25 - Bentley MI
8/15 - Moorestown MI
8/29 - Marquette MI
9/19 - Greenville OH
10/10 - Fife Lake MI
10/31 - New Paris IN

sprint enduros
2020 Kenda AMA D14 Michigan Sprint Enduro Series Schedule
Round 1- 5/2 Battle Creek Motorcycle Club ISDE Qualifier Day 1
Round 2- 5/3 Battle Creek Motorcycle Club ISDE Qualifier Day 2
Round 3- 5/31 Ogemaw Track and Trail
Round 4- 6/14 Log Road Motocross
Round 5- 6/28 Dutch Sport Park
Round 6- 8/9 Muskegon Motorcycle Club
Round 7- 8/30 Drumlin Hills MX
Round 8- 9/27 Valley Trail Riders

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 15, 2019, 09:46:52 PM
you can not program a computer ,odo and clock only. I and a few others use ico's but only for the clock and odo. they do check to see if they are programmed.
Alex

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on December 16, 2019, 08:09:27 PM
How did you fix the wheel speed sensor to the fork slider and the magnet to your drum brake hub?
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: 250auto on December 16, 2019, 09:06:50 PM
epoxied the magnet in one of the recesses for the spokes on the hub and used the ico bracket that they have for the sensor wire . Hose clamp the bracket to the fork leg, or I used the pinch bolts for the axle 76 model with the leading axle forks

1975 250 harescambler
1980 250auto wr
and a bunch of others
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: derek martin on December 16, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
Thanks
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: Mick Milakovic on December 25, 2019, 12:34:52 AM
Very cool and fun series, how to do more next year!

Mick
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: erickz on January 18, 2020, 09:29:52 AM
Thanks for posting the 2020 schedule...what is a sprint enduro??
EZ
Title: 2019 vintage enduros
Post by: rob w on January 18, 2020, 08:18:28 PM
2020 Sprint Enduro Rules

All Sprint Enduro events will feature at least two special tests with racers making multiple attempts on each test and the total, cumulative time being used for race results.
I.e., the fastest rider wins.
There will be no "drops" of special test times, all test scores count.