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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: 61rover on May 10, 2020, 04:22:21 PM

Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: 61rover on May 10, 2020, 04:22:21 PM
Hi Everyone,

New Penton owner here.  1974.5 Jackpiner 175.  Kick start lever is missing (as are a few other things).  What are my options?

John

74.5 Jackpiner 175
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Steve Minor on May 10, 2020, 08:22:25 PM
Al Buehner......on the supplier section of the home page

http://www.pentonpartsusa.com/

Steve Minor
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Larry Perkins on May 10, 2020, 09:55:18 PM
There is a refurbished old style one on eBay

Larry P
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: 61rover on May 10, 2020, 10:14:15 PM
The one on ebay says "loose knuckle".  Not sure how bad it is.

I'll check with Al on Monday.  Spoke with him on Thursday but forgot to ask about that piece.

74.5 Jackpiner 175
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Larry Perkins on May 11, 2020, 12:18:35 AM
Al does not have kickers in stock anymore.

Larry P
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Steve Minor on May 11, 2020, 05:39:27 AM
Speaking of "loose knuckle" kickers, does anyone have a source for the spring and ball to repair them?

Steve Minor
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: G Ellis on May 11, 2020, 09:59:35 AM
I can fix them.
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Steve Minor on May 11, 2020, 01:04:25 PM
Good to know Gary...I have a couple that need work.

Steve Minor
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Bob Gilman on May 11, 2020, 02:14:14 PM
John,send me your address and I will give you a good one,not new but in great condition,no charge. Bob Gilman
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Capt Morgan on May 12, 2020, 03:55:56 PM
I have a 14mm I would sell or trade of a 12mm kick start lever, also 74-1/2 Jackpiner.

1974 1/2 Penton Jackpiner
2016 KTM 250 XC
2008 Yamaha TTR 125
2015 KTM 350 XC-F
2013 Kawasaki KLX 140 L
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: 454MRW on May 12, 2020, 04:42:40 PM
I believe all 125/175's are 14mm, the 250/400's are 17mm.
It might be that some early 73 250s had the 14mm.

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1976 Penton MC5 400
1977 KTM MC5 125
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Capt Morgan on May 14, 2020, 07:26:15 PM
My Jackpiner has a 12mm kick start shaft. Looking for a 12mm lever with good chrome shape. Have a nice 14mm to trade

1974 1/2 Penton Jackpiner
2019 Husky TX 300
2018 Kawasaki 140 G
1976 Penton 175 Cross Country
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: 454MRW on May 15, 2020, 11:57:48 AM
Never heard of a 12 millimeter one.

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1976 Penton MC5 400
1977 KTM MC5 125
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Larry Perkins on May 15, 2020, 12:48:08 PM
I always thought the small one was 12mm and the bigger one 14mm but never measured.  Smaller or larger is best way to keep it straight I guess.  Was always under the understanding the the 125, the 175, and the 73 250 all had the small one and all else was the bigger one.

Larry P
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: 454MRW on May 15, 2020, 08:31:31 PM
Just to make sure I wasn't slipping from old age, I looked up the non available kickstarter's on Al's site and sure enough 125 and 175 all have 14mm spline shafts and the 250-400 have 17mm, with the exception of some 73 black case 250's having 14mm. Just think how small a 12mm Marzocchi shock shaft is for comparison.


Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1976 Penton MC5 400
1977 KTM MC5 125
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM's
1976-78 125-400 RM's
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Daniel P. McEntee on May 15, 2020, 11:09:49 PM
As I have been following this thread, I have been thinking all along that the shaft sizes were 14 and 17mm. I have read either on this forum  or in Keep Track on how it is possible to upgrade a 14mm engine to 17mm, just haven't had time to do a search here. Even most small bore Japanese bikes have a shaft bigger than 12mm I think.
  Type at you later,
   dan McEntee
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Larry Perkins on May 16, 2020, 05:29:40 AM
I think I said it wrong many years but got by because I mostly would say small one or large one.  Never too old to learn.  You can retro fit the bigger shaft in the small bikes but you either have to use 250 clutch case or use a drill press to bore out the 125/175 clutch case to 250 specs.  This more complicated and replacing case is simpiler.

Larry P
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Capt Morgan on May 18, 2020, 08:57:42 PM
I have a 14mm I got from Larry P. It is way to big for my shaft which I measured at 12MM I will get a photo tomorrow with the mic's in the opening of my old lever.

1974 1/2 Penton Jackpiner
2019 Husky TX 300
2018 Kawasaki 140 G
1976 Penton 175 Cross Country
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: gooddirt on May 19, 2020, 02:30:31 PM
ANY shaft  will be lager in the OD any lever will be smaller ID- the lever is 12mm ID the shaft is
 14mm OD
Title: WTB 14mm Kick Start Lever
Post by: Capt Morgan on May 19, 2020, 07:01:10 PM
Yes, the ID on my kick start is 12mm, I guess I didnt explain it very well. Does anyone have one for sale or trade ?

1974 1/2 Penton Jackpiner
2019 Husky TX 300
2018 Kawasaki 140 G
1976 Penton 175 Cross Country