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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: skiracer on July 18, 2020, 01:02:01 PM

Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: skiracer on July 18, 2020, 01:02:01 PM
So riding my 250 yesterday; 85 degrees, 78% humidity. Rode about 40 minutes. When I got back to my shop I noticed the first bend on the pipe was blueish and the rest of the pipe was really hot. I checked the  plug color after the motor cooled down and I found it to be a real nice light brown, perfect burn. So my question is, if my jetting is right why did the motor get that hot?  Yes I was riding hard, but I didn't think I was pushing it that hard. Any thoughts?

1976 250 MC5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: firstturn on July 18, 2020, 03:54:21 PM
Make sure your pipe isn't plugged up.

Ron Carbaugh
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: skiracer on July 19, 2020, 07:01:14 AM
thanks Ron, pipe is clear...

Quotequote:Originally posted by firstturn

Make sure your pipe isn't plugged up.

Ron Carbaugh


1976 250 MC5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: firstturn on July 19, 2020, 10:30:46 AM
Check your timing.


Ron Carbaugh
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: skiracer on July 19, 2020, 01:04:16 PM
Too far advanced, yes?  My thoughts too.  

Quotequote:Originally posted by firstturn

Check your timing.


Ron Carbaugh


1976 250 MC5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: Mike Rosso on July 19, 2020, 01:55:48 PM
Is your head pipe sealed with high temp RTV at the cylinder exhaust manifold?

Mike
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: skiracer on July 19, 2020, 02:34:10 PM
No.  I have never sealed my 250 or 175 motors.  I just slide the pipe into the slip joint of the exhaust manifold.  Have done it that way since the bike was new.

Quotequote:Originally posted by Mike Rosso

Is your head pipe sealed with high temp RTV at the cylinder exhaust manifold?

Mike

1976 250 MC5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: Richard on July 19, 2020, 02:52:59 PM
Retarded timing could cause exhaust header overheating (ignition firing closer to top dead center). Fuel still burning when exhaust port is open.
Title: Motor temp / plug color
Post by: skiracer on July 19, 2020, 06:40:40 PM

So, the piston is set at less than the standard 2.55 BTDC, right?  I am going to check the timing this week. Thanks for the input.

Quotequote:Originally posted by Richard

Retarded timing could cause exhaust header overheating (ignition firing closer to top dead center). Fuel still burning when exhaust port is open.

1976 250 MC5 Original Owner
1976 Penton 175 XC