a barn fresh 1975 125cc Six Days in full enduro trim that followed you home from work? I ask because I don't know what AHRMA class this bike would be in. The production date is 12 of 74. Would this allow it to be vintage legal or would it have to be PV? My first thought was to use all the cool parts on other bikes i.e. 35mm front end on my 73 Piner, 6D engine on my 74 classic mx, and who couldn't use extra alloy wheels, but I hate to part out a bike this complete. The forward mount shocks look really cool and the rear most mount looks to be in the same location as the early 74 frame. Does anyone else have one of these, it's the first one I've seen. Thanks
Dennis Jones
Hi Dennis,
I have one just like that, except it doesn't have the enduro kit. The 6D motor came with the internal flywheel motoplat so I don't have a lighting coil. Mine also has a serial# of 12-74. Back in 75 I had a new one just like this one so when this one came along, I couldn' pass it up. Karl S also has one. I've had mine for 8 years now. Do you want to sell thatm one?:D
Great find!!
I believe AHRMA rules say that any Sachs-powered Penton can race in the Vintage Classic 125 class, and the Sportsman 125 if you dare. You must keep with the 7" and 4" suspension requirements.
Keep your '75 intact and get it back in shape. If you search this site Karl previously inquired of Poggers to find out how many of these bikes exist. If your frame is the "laydown" multi-position Sachs Penton frame, it is rare. Good luck.
Glenn
Dennis,
Nice find!! I have a poster of your machine that I bought on ebay which was included in a Dirt Rider magazine. It is the size of 4 magazine pages when it unfolds and features Tom Penton doing a wheelie on an enduro version of your machine. It has Falk fenders, laydown shocks, 6D engine, enduro tank, and a speedo. I will bring it to the POG meeting at the AMA on Feb. 7th for you to see.
As far as what to do with your machine, easy question, it needs to go to the guy who has a poster of it in use!!!!! Wanna trade for an Alouette????
Paul
Paul,
Is there a Kinko's or some other copy place close to you that could copy that poster? I sure would be interested in one for my 'WALL of FAME'. I'll make it worth your while. Thanks
..........you can,
a) sell it to some collector that will stick it amongst the the other pile of valuable bikes somewhere in the corner of the world, which will never be seen again.
or
b) you can bring it out to the races, maybe win a cross-country championship, and have it be enjoyed by the masses.
Everytime I see Karl's Sixday I drool and wish for the day that I may be riding the same model of Penton.
Congrats Dennis on finding a winner, you're a lucky boy!!!
Bob
Dennis,My '75 125 was a MX model without lights and it had a internal rotor ignition.I've ran it in the Sportsman class with the shocks upright and spacer added(to met the 4" rule).I think the bike is as fast or faster than the jap crap,I'm just a slower rider.I put a different ignition on mine and ran the ISDTRR with the shocks layed-down for max travel and she rode and handled GREAT,just had to run in the PV class.This bike is my favorite of all the Pentons I have.The power is fantastic and since I've put on the heavier flywheel it is much more controllable.I'll NEVER part with mine,(I've been offered $4000 for it and to me it's worth more).If you want to sell it,PLEASE e-mail me!!! When the ISDTRR finished,a couple of Huskey riders commented to me that the bike seemed to float down the trails and would go wherever I pointed it and danced along edges of ruts that they rode IN.IT is truly an fantastic handling bike well worth keeping.Unless you want me to have it.I ride mine weekly at a local outlaw MX track and if not for the supercross jumps,I can mix it up with the modern bikes.
Dennis or Metalkfab,
If you have a picture of your bike showing the frame, I would really like to see it. I have a 77 100, the frame is different than the rest of the Sachs powered bikes I have. I would like to compare what you have to mine.
thanks
Rocket
[email protected]
I also have a '75 Six Day MXer with the dual position rear shock frame. I raced it a number of times in AHRMA races in 2001 and 2002 in the Classic 125 class. It is a very competitive bike if you don't miss a shift. It is incredibly fun to race. It has non mud catching alloy rims, PVL ignition, titanium handle bar, trick aluminum pipe, and a 6D engine that is not the stuffed crankcase type. I seized it in the last Missouri race in 2002 and still haven't gotten it back together again. I raced it in a moto just after racing the 400. My impression at the time was I left it wide open too long expecting more from it after racing the 400. Others have said that it should be able to be left wide open for ever and not seize. It was especially cold that day and may have just been lean enough to seize it.
Teddy
Randy,
I will bring the poster to the meeting tomorrow nite.
Paul
!!!WOW!!! I new I had a keeper, but not this cool! Paul I wondered who would be the first with your suggestion. Although this bike is well used, it is very complete. Looks like my Tyran project will get pushed back again. Rod I will try to send pictures but it may take a while. Bob, no danger of selling to a collector here, anything I have gets rode :D
Dennis Jones
To all owners of the '74/74 Sachs powered Pentons with the lay down shocks.
Since we seem to have agathering of this one style of bike why don't we list our frame #'s.
Mine is 40977001
Ron Carbaugh
Paul,
Thanks, I'll be there.
Ron,
My Six Days is #412 80151
Serial number for my 77 100: 703 93854 What is the highest serial number that anybody has recorded?
Rod
Hi Ron, My serial # is 41280161
Randy, Mine has a way to go before it looks like the picture of yours.
Dennis Jones
Paul,
What issue of Dirt Ridder was that poster in? Thanks
Randy,
Your bike is a 125?
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
Yep. 'D' motor 125
Frame number 412 80190.
Mine is 41179794
It has a way to go too, but when I found it badly rusted around the opening to the high breather, I started working on something that I could get painted sooner since cold weather was just around the corner. Has anyone else seen rust in this area? It looks like the original owner tried to seal every possible opening to the air box. I guess he missed a spot and what got in could not get out.
John J Slivka
John Slivka,
Your size bike is what?
Thanks,
Ron Carbaugh
Mine is also a D motor 125. It has MX tank, but also has headlight ears, so I'm not sure of it's original form. What's puzzling is that it came from Texas and shows no sign of rust anywhere else. The Airbox does have a ridge around the top like the '72's.
John J Slivka
John,
I live in Texas and have seen this before in the area described. It normally happens when water or just moisture stands in this area and eventually just rusts away the metal. The top of the air box will be similar without the holes for the scoop as on the '72 models. What part of Texas did you bike come from if you don't mind me asking. Thanks for the info.
Ron Carbaugh
Curiosity got the best of me on this bike.We all know the story "Yeah it ran when I parked it 20 years ago." With a little W-D in the cylinder it turned over and had compression. Pulling the ignition cover showed no chain damage and the crank bearings felt good. Pull the plug and check for spark, looked fair. The only sign of a carb was the flat slide of a lectron hanging from the cable. My other 125 had a Mikuni that fit right in the rubber mount of the D cylinder. After a lot of kicking it finally started and somewhat cleared out. The headlight was even burning :D I really wanted to ride it, but with the stuck clutch and frayed cables decided not to risk it. I can't wait to finish up a couple of small projects and start on this
one.
Dennis Jones
Ron,
When I bought the poster on ebay it was already out of the magazine. I have looked closely on the poster for a date but there isn't one. Randy is going to try to duplicate it, we will let you know how is works out.
Paul
Paul,
As always, thanks for your input and keen eye to spot this neat poster.
Randy,
Let me know how much and I need to get with I also need to purchase some of your other items.
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
The bike was sent to me from Lubbock.
John J Slivka
Thanks JJ. Just curious. I have a lot of old racing friends in west and the panhandle.
Ron Carbaugh
I talked to the printer about the poster last night & cost for duplicating it, in color, in the same size ( 17" X 22" )will be $26.00 each. Sounds a little steep, but I want one for myself. Anyone else interested? Let me know & I'll order them all at once.
Randy I would like to have one.
Dennis Jones
Dennis,
Great find, nothing ever follows me home, I always have to go find it and then pay exorbitant (sp?) shipping to get it to me. Call me, I'd love to come see it. I've got a couple projects in my shop since we talked last too.
Tom
Randy,
Put me in for one. The price sounds steep since I normally never pay more than $10.00 for similar copying. Oh well people always thought I charged too as a fihing guide. And they were right!
I also need to purchase some other items Randy.
Thanks eyeman,
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
Where do you get something like that copied? This is from a photo shop that I deal with. Maybe you could check & see if you could get them? $10 sounds a lot better than $26 to me. I'm sure Paul wouldn't care. OK Paul??
Randy let me check tomorrow to see if the can still copy that size for that price. Don't ask Paul for any permission to loan me anything. He will ask for collateral, such as my '68 penton or Steve Wise's old Penton, nothing gets past Hammer(Paul).
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
Sounds like a plan. I'll wait till I hear from you. Thanks
Frame number 412 80190.
Mine is 41179794
It has a way to go too, but when I found it badly rusted around the opening to the high breather, I started working on something that I could get painted sooner since cold weather was just around the corner. Has anyone else seen rust in this area? It looks like the original owner tried to seal every possible opening to the air box. I guess he missed a spot and what got in could not get out.
John J Slivka
John Slivka,
Your size bike is what?
Thanks,
Ron Carbaugh
Mine is also a D motor 125. It has MX tank, but also has headlight ears, so I'm not sure of it's original form. What's puzzling is that it came from Texas and shows no sign of rust anywhere else. The Airbox does have a ridge around the top like the '72's.
John J Slivka
John,
I live in Texas and have seen this before in the area described. It normally happens when water or just moisture stands in this area and eventually just rusts away the metal. The top of the air box will be similar without the holes for the scoop as on the '72 models. What part of Texas did you bike come from if you don't mind me asking. Thanks for the info.
Ron Carbaugh
Curiosity got the best of me on this bike.We all know the story "Yeah it ran when I parked it 20 years ago." With a little W-D in the cylinder it turned over and had compression. Pulling the ignition cover showed no chain damage and the crank bearings felt good. Pull the plug and check for spark, looked fair. The only sign of a carb was the flat slide of a lectron hanging from the cable. My other 125 had a Mikuni that fit right in the rubber mount of the D cylinder. After a lot of kicking it finally started and somewhat cleared out. The headlight was even burning :D I really wanted to ride it, but with the stuck clutch and frayed cables decided not to risk it. I can't wait to finish up a couple of small projects and start on this
one.
Dennis Jones
Ron,
When I bought the poster on ebay it was already out of the magazine. I have looked closely on the poster for a date but there isn't one. Randy is going to try to duplicate it, we will let you know how is works out.
Paul
Paul,
As always, thanks for your input and keen eye to spot this neat poster.
Randy,
Let me know how much and I need to get with I also need to purchase some of your other items.
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
The bike was sent to me from Lubbock.
John J Slivka
Thanks JJ. Just curious. I have a lot of old racing friends in west and the panhandle.
Ron Carbaugh
I talked to the printer about the poster last night & cost for duplicating it, in color, in the same size ( 17" X 22" )will be $26.00 each. Sounds a little steep, but I want one for myself. Anyone else interested? Let me know & I'll order them all at once.
Randy I would like to have one.
Dennis Jones
Dennis,
Great find, nothing ever follows me home, I always have to go find it and then pay exorbitant (sp?) shipping to get it to me. Call me, I'd love to come see it. I've got a couple projects in my shop since we talked last too.
Tom
Randy,
Put me in for one. The price sounds steep since I normally never pay more than $10.00 for similar copying. Oh well people always thought I charged too as a fihing guide. And they were right!
I also need to purchase some other items Randy.
Thanks eyeman,
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
Where do you get something like that copied? This is from a photo shop that I deal with. Maybe you could check & see if you could get them? $10 sounds a lot better than $26 to me. I'm sure Paul wouldn't care. OK Paul??
Randy let me check tomorrow to see if the can still copy that size for that price. Don't ask Paul for any permission to loan me anything. He will ask for collateral, such as my '68 penton or Steve Wise's old Penton, nothing gets past Hammer(Paul).
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
Sounds like a plan. I'll wait till I hear from you. Thanks
Randy,
Please put me down for one of the posters. Thanks.
Mike Husted
72&74 SixDays
76 MC5 250
OK Mike, Will do.
Randy,
The people that normally do my printing no longer have the machine to do this large of print. They suggested Kinkos. I will check on this later this week when I get back to Houston. Do you have a Kinkos local?
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
Not in Zanesville. Maybe in Columbus (50 miles). Maybe tomorrow, I'll try to give them a call. Thanks
Ron,
I just got off the phone with Kinko's in Col. They said $22 each plus $10 one time to scan the poster. Sounds like we better stay where we are at $26. Anyone else interested? I'll send final order in tomorrow. Right now total of 4.
Randy,
Thanks and forward your e-mail or phone# so I can see what else I need.
Thanks
[email protected]Ron Carbaugh
Ron, Dennis, & Mike,
I picked up the posters last night. They look super. I'll be getting them ready to ship in the next couple days. If anyone else wants one, I will still be able to get them for a couple months.
Randy thats great. I will send you a check for the poster and two sets of the trials decals.
Dennis Jones
OK Dennis,
Could you email your address to me? I'm waiting on shipping tubes till Monday.
My wish came true, I'm going to be just like Karl someday...mine is # 411 79804...when do I get to learn the secret hand shake.
Congratulations Rob. It should look nice next to that Monark[:p]. Now If Teddy Landers would give us his secret number off his frame [:o)] we would have all accounted for that that have come forward. Good job Rob.
Ron Carbaugh
Nice find Bob. What kind of tank, carb, ect does yours have? I hope we can ride them in the woods soon.
Dennis Jones