Just for the sake of discussion here, how many Penton Motorcycles do we own amongst the members of this forum?? I own 3 genuine Penton motorcycles. There pretty much original, Frankensteins or mongrols, there not. Taking a calculated guess, with no award presented, I'd say roughly 2800 Penton motorcycles. Thats averaging the 800 + or - members multiplide by 3 and a half bikes a piece. Anybody got a more precise calculated guess ?:)
Hey, Lets add em up. I've got 4.
I got 1, And wait till you hear from Ron Carbaugh !!
Thomas Carmichael
I once had 12 now I have 4.
I've got 6
(2) 72 Six Days 125
(1) 73 Jackpiner 175
(1) 74 Hare Scrambler 250
(1) 75 Enduro 250
(1) 77 GS6 400
Piner x 2
Dennis D
2 74,s 125 SD...........bt[^]
Brian Taylor
I have my Berkshire of 30 yrs, and a newly aquired Six Day.
Robert Manucy
72 Berkshire
72 Six Day
a 68 and a 72 berkshire
had 3 400's- sold to brad kennard of ahrma midwest
1970 Berkshire
1971 Six Day
1972 Six Day
1973 Jackpiner
:D
Now how about other brand bikes that Uncle John had a hand in importing?
1973 PUCH MC175E
1972 PUCH MC175
1974 PUCH 175GS
1972 PUCH MC125
Hercules 1977 GS125/7a ( Special Euro model that John brought in for evaluation during the split between KTM and Penton Imports, One of 2 )
Hercules 1976 GS125/7a
Hercules 1976 GS175/7a ( 2 )
Hercules 1976 GS250/7a
Cher'o,
Dwight
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Dwight Rudder
7 time ISDT / E medalist
8 time National Enduro Class Champion.
75 Hiro, 74 400 Mint, 74 250, 74 125, 73 250, 73 Piner, 73 Mudlark 125, 73 100, 72 Piner, 72 125, 71 125, 70 100, 69 175 Penton/Puch, and a 75 250 Maico[8]
70 Berkshire, 72 6-day, 73 6-day, 74 250 MX, 75 175 MX, 75 400 Enduro,
77 100, 77 175 GS6. Also have a 78 Husky 250 [:0]. I've had as high as 16, but I like to share the fun :D.
Rocket
4 - Penton/Wassell Trials
1 - 73 175 Jackpiner
1 - 74 125 MX
1 - 74 250
1 - 75 125 Lay Down Shock, Sachs Engine
Dennis Jones
Only four that I will admit to,
1971 125 Six Day
1972 175 Jackpiner
1972 100 Berkshire
1973 125 Six Day
All w/ plates and lights.
-don
3/4
Jerry
I'm only allocated space in my garage for two complete bikes.
'72 125 Six Day MX
'74 250 Hare Scrambler MX
I have engines in all displacements to swap in and out as the need arises.
Glenn
I have 2 Pentons, 1972 Jackpiner that competed in the Czech ISDT & 1977 GS6 250. I also have a 1978 KTM 400 & 1981 495.
Tony
'74 250 harescrambler in MX trim, and my brother has a '74 Jackpiner in enduro trim. My daughter wants to race vintage (in 3 years), so I will add to this!
1972 125 Six Day
Dale
1- 1973 Jackpinner enduro,total restoration,my original bike. 1- 1973 250 Harescrambler enduro,original. 1-1968 125 Sixdays incomplete restoration project. Love those Pentons! Crash Carden, Go Team Penton!
WOW I can't belive the Penton's some of you have!!! I don't have enough hair left to own more ! I guess it get's easier as you go ! What the real question should be is how do you slide them by the wife![8)]
Thomas Carmichael
In the past year is when i started to collect Pentons 2- 1975 jackpinners 1-1976 125, 1-1976 175 jackpinner, 1 1974 1/2 250. Hope to have more in the next year. This site and the Guys that have helped me with this has been the best time.I just sold my suzuki to Ron C and i will deliver it to Doug Wilford in a couple of weeks and i look forward to meeting him. Herm Knoll On 3/7/04 added a complete pretty running and my first sachs penton its a 1973 125 mx.Well on 4/10/04 i went to indainia and picked up one more 74 250 gs and last week i won the bid on ebay for a 1976 250gs
Herman,
You told me it was a Pesuki. I thought it was first kin to a Hiro with a Penton sticker on it.
Ron Carbaugh
I have a 1974 250 cc H/S that I bought new also a 1972 125cc six day enduro.
Joe stearns
Don Roth, I see that all of your machines have plates and lights. Would you tell us what your opinion of street riding a Penton is? Have the police ever questioned you? Do you have any advise for us who are looking to street ride our Pentons?
Thanks
Paul
PS I think I have a Penton somewhere here, I will take a better look and get right back!!:D
Paul,
If the Township ever found out the truth on the real definition of "HOW MANY" I could tell you it would make the National Headlines!
Here Goes: City Adds to Tax Base by Two Fold or They Just Discovered Gold near Slippery Rock.
Ron Carbaugh
I have just the one. Are all these bike in running order? ready to ride?
Thom Green,I own and ride a 76 250 MC5 MX which I bought new.
ODE to a Penton....
1=74 250 Enduro Mint 800 miles (maybe at Tulsa)
1-78 175 MC5
1=77 GS 250 (Fabulous woods bike) (maybe for sale to the right guy)
1=74 250 MX (past winner)
1=74 250 Custom Freightliner Special (only from the mind)
1=75 rolling chassis with LL Cerianis (to the right guy)
1=75 GS 250 custom (previous past winner)
1=72 125 runner
1=74 Berkshire 100 (previous past winner)
2=1980 250 enduro (killer woodsbike)(1 For Sale)
1=1980 250 MX (For Sale)
1=76 MC5 175 fresh resto (oweeee)
2=76 400's (active racers, its in my blood)
1=78 MC5 250 (past winner)
1=78 MC5 400 (past winner)
1=73 250 HS mint (one of the best)
1=75 GS 175 (only taken out on that special day in the woods)
They make me "retreat to the garage" they are demanding, they have a past history, but I live in the present, they make me want to make side panels, they are a living testimony....Guess you know the "rest of the story"
I forgot one: I'm rebuilding a '78 XL-100 Honda for a pit bike. It's going to have a Penton seat cover, Berkshire tank stickers, and whatever other Penton parts that will fit. It's my Pentonda project!
Paul..
I ride mine on a rotation, the Berkshire one day, the Piner the next,
etc. As far as local law officials, most of them smile and wave, I
make SURE that headlight tail light and brake light work, and basically just behave myself,(I know, I know, it is hard to keep both wheels on the pavement) I have used International Title Service(//www.its-titles.com)
to get registered and then transfer it to Ohio. Fortunately, Maine will register a vehicle on a bill of sale if it is before 1982($100)
I also run the old Trials Universal-style tires
they have decent wet pavement traction, well better than knobbies.
Insurance is via Progressive, $75.00/yr. No troubles yet, most folks
smile, even the Harley guys, that are in large numbers down here. Hope
that answers most questions,
-don
Don,
Thanks for the info. I am looking forward to setting up a bike that is legal and cruising around the back roads on occasion. I like to explore old back roads and what better way to go than on a Penton!
Wouldn't it be neat to have a Penton backroad ride.
Paul
I have a few that are running, some for restoration.
1-'72 Jackpiner-bought it new.
3-'73 Jackpiners
1-'72 Six Day
1-'74 250 MX
1-'97 KTM Jackpiner LE
Also from Maine. There are several of us on here now.
Bill
Don,
Thanks for your update on legallity of our Pentons.
Ron Carbaugh
late 68 125 [with the help of kip]
72 175 [wifes]
73 100 [kids]{with a KTM bottom end}
73 250 [future flat tracker?]
74 250 [older kids racer]
74 250 [will be show bike]
74 400 [practice bike]
75 400 [my racer]
76 125 [soon]{the kid is growing fast}
77 250 [show bike]
77 400 [my pv racer]
78 250 [older kids pv racer]
78 400 [show bike]
80 420 [pv racer if I feel the need for more speed]
87 500 [to be a show bike]
97 200 [Jackpiner I ride a little]
98 250 [kids modern bike]
Is this excessive??
All these Pentons and no one wants to sell a Jackpiner?
Swampy
Paul, you'd have a hard time riding on the front roads up here in Maine, the frost heaves are so deep that trucks have disappeared in them. The pot holes will knock the lights and accesories off, so you won't need those either. extra 12's what you need on your bikes to be road worthy!!
Raymond
'71 Six Day steel tank
'73 Hare Scrambler
'74 Piner
'74 Piner
'74 Mint 400
'75 Six Day
'78 250 MC5
'80 400 MC80
'01 200 EXC KTM
Eight Pentons and one KTM in all. I'm calling the MC5 and MC80 Pentons because I painted the frames Penton silver!!!
Teddy
Hi Mike, To answer your question naa, thats not excessive, I think you got the right attitude!! can I come over and ride sometime?
Raymond
Rainman,
I've got 5 Penton motorcycles, and 1 parts bike.
1 72 Berkshire
1 72 Six Days
2 73 Six Days
1 74 Hare Scrambler.
Scott in Texas
I have zip. (still waiting for my husband to catch the bug so he can restore a couple for us).
But given Mike's list, I'm thinking that he could adopt me and put me on his kid's list. (p.s. -- I will take a hand-me-down)
Lynn,
i have a good lead on a 72 125 six-days that looks to be all their and a rider. would you like me to forward a picture of the bike?
JOhn D.
Lynn,
John Durrill brings up a good point. What is you "Dream Penton" by year and model. As always thanks for your great input to the POG.
Now if I can find that HIRO engine I stored several years ago - you know I put it where it would be safe.
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
It is rumored that Jake Fischer has an NOS Hiro. You'd probably have to open up your home equity line of credit to shake it loose.
Glenn
John,
Feel free to send me a picture. I hate to be practical, but I realize that I have no time and little talent to do maintenance, so Jim would have to willing to take on the job. He does a great job with my modern bike -- I just show up and ride. Jim was very impressed with the bikes and the people at the Penton Annual Meeting -- so it won't be long.....[:p]
Ron, Bob, Glen...
I don't want to bring this off-topic, but I would like to know more about this HIRO you are talking about. A short explanation here... or new topic...
A quick search of the forum yields Jake Fischer selling a Hiro engine for $2500 a couple of years ago. Looks like Won C. better find that Gold!
Karl & Glenn,
I sold my two NOS engines this past year. I remember the HIRO's well, but Pat Mickevicius has one (complete bike) with no spare parts. He still has one with no spare parts, but he has a spare engine.
Lynn,
Sometime when the Forum is slow lets hit the Hiro subject. I had experience with the bike, but I feel Dane is the real authority and Pat has the complete bike. You can also go to the Photo Section(that Karen takes care of[:o)]) and see Pat's bike from last Mid-Ohio. Got to go play pushie shovie and get the bikes put up for the night.
Ron Carbaugh
.. It does not matter if you have 1 10 or 20, it all began with the first.... if it is sitting in a heap in your shed and its a Penton, then it deserves... it knows nothing, our friendships evolve....how does this happen? Retreat to the garage....and Enjoy!!!!!
I currently have 4 Pentons
72 125 Six Day Enduro
73 125 Six Day MX
74 125 Six Day Enduro
74-? 125 Woodsman (Modified Wassel Trials)
I have about 85 other vintage dirt bikes with Bultaco leading the pack as far as numbers go.
Holy Cow!![:0] 89 bikes - whether in pieces or not really redefines sickness. People are usually amazed when I state that I've owned a total of 65 or so of the beauties (some street, mostly dirt), but to actually possess that many at one time defies comprehension. Hells bells, I've been to dealers with way less inventory than that. Congratulations[:p]
Keithuu
Steve, If you own 89 dirt bikes, how many Guitars have you got? Don't scare me now[:0]
Kip,
I have a couple of guitars! 1 Rickenbacker 12 sting; Gretch Firebird; Fender Jass Bass; Gibson Les Paul; Fender Telecaster; and a Hoffman Bass. These things are more costly than the bikes!
Donny Smith
Hi Donny, I got a Sears Roebuck made in America wooden guitar, the bridge needs to be repaired, it "bowed over" at some point. any
idea how much its worth?? Oh ya, someday I'm gonna count up the bikes in this post and give eeveryone a final count, of course, 1/2 a bike counts. In process of buying the bike counts. just the engine don't count. The frame less the engine does count.
Raymond
Raymond,
The only thing I know about the Sears guitars is when they were made by Silvertone they were a good guitar. It all depends on the the year and make. Just like in the motorcycle business!
Donny Smith
I think I have more guitars than bikes at the moment.
Two nearly Penton's.... 71' and 74.5' 175 Puch's. I wouldn't have posted if D.R.'s post had not reminded me of their association.
GC
Guitars, bring them to TULSA (acoustic), a warm campfire is the best place, it burns deep with pure music. I will bring mine.....Funny how this conversation began, how it evolves, will bring happiness, it gets even better on a Penton....
Kip
Maybe I should make a Penton Six Day guitar for the next reunion.
Gibson J200 size with Penton in pearl letters on the fret board. Green with the Six Day lettering and white stripe on the top.
I have 1 72 six day. Hey Dwight! What do you think would have happened had John stayed with the Sachs motor? Most of us have seen how good that horizontally split Sachs motor works. John had to wait until 1976 to offer the KTM 125 motor. By then Sachs was useing their new motor in the Hercules bikes. I understand that the motors could be ordered with five, six, or seven speed transmissions. Making the motor versatile enough to be used for many different styles of riding. Check out the article in the #11 issue of VMX magazine. It profiles a works GP 250 five speed Sachs motored bike. The bike was ridden in the 1977 Trans-USA 250cc suport class at Mid Ohio to fith place. I,m thinking we could all be riding new Sachs motorcycles instead of KTM's. I guess I'm just a die hard Sachs guy. Gavin
Steve, Donny I think a Penton Guitar would be neat! I have a AA Les Paul that is sooo smooth I couldn't imagine playing anything else. If anyone could make that guitar, Steve, you could! Donny, sounds like you have some nice "twang" boxes also![8D] I can imagine the "6 Day" logo on the body of a custom guitar with a tank strap designed across the body to top it off! Use motoplat pick-ups[:p] I had better go, I smell maple!
75 PENTON 250 SO I GUESS THAT MAKES 90 BIKES NO GUITARS HERE.
have 73 125 , 74 250 , and Monarch basket. Plus lots of parts. I live in Chicago area. I WANT TO SELL EVERYTHING I HAVE. I don't have daily access to a computer. I will not be able to list the 4 pages of parts I have. call after 8 PM 847 692 9337.
Lot of Penton parts for sale. Inquire via email.
I don't know how that reply by e mail thing got on my message. I only have access to a terminal once or twice a month. CALL ON PHONE.
Lot of Penton parts for sale. Inquire via email.
:D
Own a 75 250
Lets see. Adopt a woman thats into vintage dirt bikes? Whats your measurements,ah, I mean, Id have to get my wifes approval first, I guess. Ill let you know if I survive the question.
Folks,
That could have been the last time we heard from Mike. Going to as his wife that question? Brave man.
Donny Smith
got 73 penton trails to put back together, #2 a 74 six-day to restore #3 is a 125 six-day that we bought as a 100, had the red berkshire tank on it. Had another 100 and a 250 but both were stolen some year back
I have 1, a 73 Six-Days
Lord, please let me be more like the person my dog thinks I am.
anybody count these yet, I tried to but nodded off...zzzzz
Rain Man,
Someday soon we will be able to get back into the bike registery and once everyone logs their bikes, we can all get a good feeling for who has what.
Donny Smith
1 Penton Trials ( Never had a drop of gas) Are there any others like this. Also it's never even rolled over any gravel. Not sure on the year, I just can't find the sn#. Any clues as why?
1 Penton Woodsman ( About 3miles) Donny what year is it?
Terry Laible
72 175 Jackpiner in progress
73 175 Jackpiner in progress
74 125 Six Days complete
74 175 Jackpiner complete
75 175 Jackpiner complete
and 7 more on the way in various stages.:D
Terry,
The serial number should be at the same location of the Woodsman. On the steering head. The Woodsman is a 1977, according to the guy I got it from. There are many stories about the Woodsman and how it came to be. Some say they were left over pieces just thrown together to move them. Others say that the Trials bike sales were so weak that they tried ot spice them up a bit. Funny how a non selling bike in the day is now one of the rarest.
Donny Smith
3, a 73 125 Six Day, a 1975 Jackpiner & a 76' 125 GS
Chris
wow they got a lot of Pentons in Tennessee, hey Vol, you ever get tired of fixing, let me or da Pog guys know, we can stich a coupla dem dar bikes back up to snuff for ya.
no brakes is great[8D]
Raymond
Raymond,
I will be needing a lot of help in the future as I am just learning all the vintage bike in & out's I am getting everything together and sorting through what I have-need.I can't wait till mid-ohio.But I can tell you one thing nothing is cooler than a penton.By the way if you or any others know anyone that needs a absoulte perfect mint unrestored 1979 Can-Am 250 Qualifier I have one that needs a new home.
And did I detect a little bit of envy of the way us southern folk speak our southern english.We shore can't help it if everyone likes the way we all talk ya'll are the ones that talk funny.As the line in the group Alabama song goes Southern Born and Southern Bread.:D
Bobby Joe Stults Jr-Now that is a southern name isn't it.
Could be good as "Billy Ray Bob", what the heck, you own a Penton, that's good nuf for me. Humor is a great thing, what a hoot!!!
Three-
1972 Jackpiner
1973 Six Day
1973 Jackpiner
I am believer in the share 'em don't hoard 'em school of thought. I had more bikes than I could reasonably restore or enjoy so I sold them so others could enjoy them. I was pleased to see my old 250 on the cover of the latest newsletter!
Those of you with garages and barns full of Pentons you are just making it harder for others to join the hobby.
Jeff Reid
Okay count me in...I've got 4 Pentons. Have a 72 and 73 Berkshire, a 125 Six Day Steeltank and a Wassell Mudlark.
Dave McC
Jeff Reid,
First, Jeff I agree with you on one side of the argument of selling bikes so others can enjoy the hobby and I have probably sold over 30 Pentons since 2001. Understand that part of that was due to my illness and wanting to get the bikes in what I considered proper hands.
Secondly, I have probably saved over 25 Pentons from being destoyed or thrown away. The salvage yards are made to destroy frames i.e. cut them up if they don't have a title for the bikes they have in their yard, if they are complete. I purchased two such bikes (Six Days 125) that had just been cut in half. My point is if it wasn't for me and people like me who are thought of as hoarding Pentons, a lot of the Pentons wouldn't exist.
Also, the area of selling bikes, I am now down to around 10 Pentons and I am still selling. I will have to say that I probably spend four times the amount of money than I recoup from sales on "wild goose chases" and promises to sell me "the perfect original Penton".
In closing, I do know people that have a lot of Pentons and that is their choice and I think it is fine. On the other hand Jeff, I have purchased parts that you had left over after you were finished with a restoration and I appreciate your selling the parts.
Thanks for your "school of thought" and your input.
Ron Carbaugh
Ron & Jeff
if it werent for guys like you who have been buying and selling bikes for the past several years I would never have been able to acquire a Penton again. I thought until my brother told me about POG that aspect of my youth was gone forever. I am a benefactor of both sides of your buying and selling thanks to a fellow POG member, Rocket. Because of what you guys have done i plan to buy several more Pentons and one day sell them to people who will really appreciate their heritage
Ron,
I guess "hoarding" is a relative term. When I lived in Indiana and offered some un-needed CZ parts (just Husky and Penton for me thanks)for sale I got a call from a guy who told me he had over 200 old dirt bikes in his barn! Every bike I could name he said he had at least one or more of and no, he didn't want to sell any. I just remember thinking- "no wonder I can't find one- this guy has them all". I know as a guy with a job, a home and a family there is a limit to how many bikes one person can reasonably deal with. All I'm saying to everyone is if you can't ride it or restore it, and it's a duplicate or triplicate in your collection consider passing it on to someone else who may be able to restore it and ride it so others can enjoy. The more Pentons in circulation the better for us all. It sounds like you are doing a great job helping to preserve the mark- keep up the good work!
Jeff Reid
Jeff,
Thank you for point of view, and I hope that people of your integrty will continue to collect, restore, ride and keep Pentons as the preferred bike of the past, present and future. I appreciated r dealing with you on ebay and hope to meet you someday in person.
Respectfully,
Ron Carbaugh