Fellow POG'ers
How may would like the protective end caps for pulling the main bearing inner races and removeing the mag flywheel and counter shaft sprocket?
We are in the process of making up some ( Mark , Rod i have two made up now for you and want to send you the small one also . Thats the reason for the delay)
The cost would be nominal. We need to buy an 10 mm end mill to do the small caps, so $5.00 would cover each cap either the large or small one , plus shipping.
Let me know and we will make a run of them up.
Doug Wilford was kind enough to loan me the large one to get the measurements right on it. I am waiting on the Herc folks in Germany to answer an e-mail with the measurements on the small one befor we start on them.
John D.
John,
Thanks for the effort please put me in for 2 each. Let me know where and when to send the money.
THIS IS A BUY! I STILL HAVE MY ORIGINAL ONES BUT WILL PURCHASE NEW ONES.
Ron Carbaugh
Ron can you measure the OD of the small cap and the overall length?
Leo sent me a note he is looking but is 99% sure he does not have a small one.
Thank You,
John D.
John,
Thanks for the effort please put me in for 2 each. Let me know where and when to send the money.
THIS IS A BUY! I STILL HAVE MY ORIGINAL ONES BUT WILL PURCHASE NEW ONES.
Ron Carbaugh
Ron can you measure the OD of the small cap and the overall length?
Leo sent me a note he is looking but is 99% sure he does not have a small one.
Thank You,
John D.
John,
As it turns out, I think I got mine from some guy in Florida who likes to run into trees.........[:p]
If need be I can send you diameters from the puller on Monday or Tuesday.
Tony
John,
Sounds easy, but see if this makes sense.
1. The OD that is closest to the flywheel is 12mm.
2. The ID for same is 10.7mm.
3. OD for the big end that the puller rides in is 14mm.
4. Length is 9.5mm.
Mine as you can imagine is well used. If you need mine or anything else let me know.
Respectfully,
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
If i understand you correctly the od is stepped or tapered from
12 to 14 mm?
We turned down a shaft tonight to make the small end cap. the od we picked is .554. the id of the hole we will bore is .4062(13/32).
We can do a step if its necessary. I just cant remember a step on the one we had back when we owned the shop. The closed end has to be thick enough not to distort that is very important and at 90 degs to the crank end. What do you think? we can turn ones like you have it will just take a bit more time.
If you think it will need the step , yes please send me your old one and we can make exact copies.
I know that there are many different mag pullers ( dimentions and makes) floating around . I can use the crank nut flush with the crank end and pull my mag or remove the inner race, but i know others can not with the mag pullers they have.
We would like to have them as close to the orignals as we can make them.
Our home phone is 386-752-9290
Adress is
John Durrill
Rt12 box 152
Lake City Florida 32025
You are a blessing.
John D.
John,
After some thought and looking at the cap I have I realized mine started out with the same OD, but has become been compressed from many years of use. So use the ID & OD that I gave you for the flywheel end for the model. The end for the puller is tapered on the inside to help center the puller. That way if someone has the puller with a taper end it will fit or a flat end it will fit. John if you need to look at the cap just say so and it and I will send it.
Regards,
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
We can make them from the specs you posted then.
thank you for doing the home work for us.
This will save many cranks and countershafts if they are used by the members. I know a lot of crank rebuilders have a very hard time if the crank ends are damaged truing the crank up. For now ( unless someone makes up a run of the countershafts) they are getting hard to find in good shape and crank halves are very hard to find in good shape.
We are useing Grade 8 bolts to make the end caps with so they will hold up as well as the orignals.
John & Peter D.
John,
Sounds like you have a excellent plan. I have seen the result of people having nice engines with crankends just destroyed. Thank you as always for your commitment in helping others.
Just a side bar do you remember the race (hare scrambles) that use to be in Bainbridge (Ga) every year? I believe it was called The Water Melon 100.
Regards,
Ron Carbaugh
John,
I'll go in for a set. Seems I might need them for my Six Day project. I can't remember if I used a socket over them when I tore down the Berkshire 30 yrs ago! Have you heard anything from Martin about the primary gears? Not that I'm close to testing, though.
Robert Manucy
72 Berkshire
72 Six Day
Robert,
i recieved an e-mail from Martijn on tuesday. He did not have a time frame yet. Just let me know he would push for the soonest date as he had customers waiting also. Will keep checking. I'm ready for my set now. Martijn had a set of new clutch plates he is sending me
wish i could have had them shipped with the gear sets!
John D.
John, I'll take a set!! Let me know when to send the Buck$.
Dale
Ron, Deek, Robert
We finished the last set of end caps tonight.
You folks send me an e-mail and we can get them shipped to you.
Its $5.00 a cap $10.00 a set plus shipping if thats ok.
sorry it took so long but we had to make up a tool post holder for the lathe to square the inside of each cap. not being a machinest that took us a while chuckle chuckle!!!
JOhn & Peter D.
Count me in for a set.
Lew Mayer
OK John,
I'll send you info for shipping.
Robert Manucy
72 Berkshire
72 Six Day
Rod, Robert, Paul, Mark, Walter
The caps are boxed and should leave in the Mail today.
Lew, deek and Ron C. I need an address . please e-mail me
John D.
Folks we shiped by USPO and the shipping was $1.05 no matter where in the US on the first 5 boxes. all this run are spoken for.
Thanks ,
John D.
John,
My check will be in the mail today. I have e-mailed my address directly to you (I didn't want Karl to know my address). Thanks John for once again sharing your time and effort to the Penton Owners.
All Owners of Sachs engined Pentons.
The caps we are discussing on this entry are to me basic tools(along with a flywheel puller) for maintaining a Penton bike equipped with a Sachs engine.
Ron Carbaugh
John,
will you be making another run anytime soon? I'd like to get a set next time. Thanks.
Mike Husted
Mike,
We will do another run later . It takes about 2 hours to make 1 of the small caps up from start to finish. A lot of turning and several different operation. We only have a little Smithy 1220 lathe, mill set up and are not machinist by any stretch of the imagination Will get some stock ready, cut into sections and next time I have a weekend free will do another run. Any one else that needs them let me know we will try and do enough for all that ask.
John & Peter D.
Ron,
The last of the caps should leave in the morning by USPO. The boxes are hand made and small chuckle chuckle! So if you have a normal size mail box you should see them soon. Try the small caps out as soon as you can and let me know how you like them.
John & Peter D.
John,
I would like to have a set if you make more.
Dennis Jones
John
Please put me down for one set. Thanks
Jeff Chevalier
Count me in if you still have any. thanks, will email
John,
I am leaving for the Penton location tomorrow and will bring back a crank and do the fitting and get back with you. Thanks again John.
Ron Carbaugh
John,
Recieved the caps today and will try to get to a shop this week that has a Sachs engine thatI can try them out. They look nice and you should be proud of your work.
Regards,
Ron Carbaugh
John,
I got mine last week and had put the flywheel back on to see how they worked. The small one fits perfectly on the crank and inside the puller also. I haven't put my hands on the puller for the countershaft sprocket yet, but I'm sure it will be just fine. Cudos on your work. Thanks again.
Robert Manucy
72 Berkshire
72 Six Day
John, I'm in no hurry for mine,but I want to see if you got my check alright.
Lew Mayer
Yes we did Lew,
Sorry to be so long in answering.
The wife and I celebrated or 36th wedding anniversary this week and I was not allowed to play with my toys for the last few days . chuckle chuckle
You should receive the caps soon or may already have them in hand.
John D.
John,
Congratulations on the Anniversary.
Ron Carbaugh
Thank you, thank you kindly Ron,
We hope to go another 36 years together. Chuckle Chuckle!!!
John D.
Hi John. Could you put me down for a set of protector caps for both the counter & crank shafts on the next run you make. Tell me price and shipping will send $ . thanks Don Howard 71 Steeltanker ISDT. doho @ttlc.net
John,
Ditto on the congratulations. I've gone 1/2 as much as you -- 18yrs. Let Mrs. Durrill know we appreciate her sharing you with us common folks!
Robert Manucy
72 Berkshire
72 Six Day
John.Caps came in the mail today. Nice job! With that packing job we can get you a job at UPS. Congratulations on your milestone. Isn't it great to be married to someone who puts up with our hobbies.
Lew Mayer
John,
We have a problem Houston. I took the Brand New caps over to The Hobby Place where some of the finest MX/Enduro bikes are hidden. I arrived with two sets and left with one set. Those are some big boys and they just gave me no choice. Good news is the are great and Richard Sanders and Capt.Don Schlutz are happy with their new tools. Thanks John it was a pleasure to help out two of my best friends.
Ron Carbaugh
John,
I would like a set from the second batch you make. Any idea when you'll make another batch. I'm in no hurry.
Gary
Gary W. Pendergrass