Thanks to everyone for the incredible input on last months quiz and I hope some new history was learned by all. This months quiz is a little different. So start off by naming the rider, brand of bike, size of bike and name anyone else in the picture. Next you may try naming the event and year and location. O. Sherriff (as named by Rob W) is interested in any and all input on this picture. Now there are a few of you who already know this information so let some of the new POG people have a chance.
http://www.pentonusa.org/archive/homepage/index_110104.html
Good luck and have fun.
Ron Carbaugh
Okay I guess I am one of the few but I can't help but play a bit a give clues. Spank my hand if it is my bad. The bike is related to Hockey. The rider is a great engine builder. The guy gassing is a World Champion MXer that was really mean on the track and a wildman in the bars. The size? Not an open class bike for sure.
Larry
The guy with the tie looks like LBJ. I didn't know he was a dirt bike fan!
Donny Smith
I know ,I know it is a Puke, I mean Puch,say maybe a 125.
Thomas Carmichael
Larrrrry,
The Sherriff is taking names[:o)], but I must say with a little boyish nod I like your post[}:)].
Ron Carbaugh
The guy holding the gas can on the left, owns a Belgian truck stop and unless I miss my guess, he also lives upstairs. I heard he can party pretty hard too.
The rider is pretty good with a calculator too.
Dane
Alright, here goes. Rider is Doug Wilford, bike is a 175 Puch, event is 74 ISDT in Italy. Looks like Joel Robert checking the bike.
Close?
Richard
rcrump1,
You got the bike right.
Ron Carbaugh
If that is you Doug I[^] am sorry for calling it a puke,it is just what I used to call them back in the 70's when I raced against them.
Thomas Carmichael
Joel Robert pouring?
GC
Ron
Richard got more than the bike right I think. By the way have you worn your cool shirt yet?
Larry
Quotequote:Originally posted by Admin
Thanks to everyone for the incredible input on last months quiz and I hope some new history was learned by all. This months quiz is a little different. So start off by naming the rider, brand of bike, size of bike and name anyone else in the picture. Next you may try naming the event and year and location. O. Sherriff (as named by Rob W) is interested in any and all input on this picture. Now there are a few of you who already know this information so let some of the new POG people have a chance.
http://www.pentonusa.org
Good luck and have fun.
Ron Carbaugh
I think it could not be DOUG becvause he could not pay J.R.to fill his tank.And that rider looks to YOUNG to be Doug.Maybe John Penton?????BMW with PUCHtank.JOHN could pay J.R.????He would have the money.J.R.is not realy puring gas,he is holding the rider steady.Right???????/Speedy----------->>>>>>>>;)[}:)][B)]
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As always I appreciate having Speedy set the record straight. The rider is in fact Doug Wilford. O.Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
Richard, A+
Sorry, that was out of my jurisdiction. Keep the peace O.
The event was the ISDT in Italy in 1974. What POG members won metals at that event and what town hosted the event?
O.Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
It was in Rome.I will leave the riders to everyone else.Here is another small question.Who was the team manager?
Also someone get Dane to talk about the living conditions.
Bobby Stults
Sorry I missed that one the sheriff informed me they arrived in Rome and went on to Camerino.
Bobby Stults
Bobby(Tenn Vol),
Your close[:p]. Give it one more try for that Orange color that makes us proud of Tennessee.
O.Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
The event was held in Camerino, and in that little town, there was a university that had not convened for the school year. The American contingent, stayed in the dormitories at the university. About the only thing I really remember about staying there, was that in the cafeteria, they used a band saw to cut the bread. It don't remember the bread as being that tough, but it must have been. But of course, I love most kinds of Italian breads, so maybe I was over looking that fact.
One rather funny occurance I can remember, was when we were getting out bikes ready for the event, Jim Hollander had his bike sitting on a low wall, sort of like on a milk crate. And for some reason, he started the bike up and the throttle stuck. When he pushed down on the back end to try and make the back wheel contact with the ground, to stall the bike, it jumped over the little wall, and headed right toward a glass enclosed vestibule. The only thing that saved the windows, was that somebody bulldogged the bike to the ground before the point of contact. Maybe Doug will remember a little more about the incident.
I have a "memento" of this event, hanging in our shop, and I'll try to take a picture of it tomorrow and get the picture put on this thread.
Dane
In answer to Danes message. The first night Dot and I arrived in Camarino we stayed in the marble dorms. there was only single beds in each room so we had adjoining rooms. Luckly she was not about to stay by herself and slept with me, good thing. About the wee hours of the night the Penton gang arrived, they were noisy and Dot said someone is in her room. I said no and we finally went back to sleep. In the morning I went to the room to check and sure enough there was Ted Penton in all his birthday glory sleeping on the bed.
At breakfast Dot and I were talking to Marsha McDonald and Suzie Mann. They had been assingned a room in the convent downtown and wanted to be where the action was so we agreed to switch rooms. After getting Ted relocated that is. The convent was nice but had a community bathroom, one per floor. It was difficult to get a warm shower almost anytime. The Nuns that lived there would probably have kittens if the knew what was happening in there room.
I can't recall the Hollander incident but knowing Jim and some of the other duzees he pulled I can imagine the fun.
Speedy; Actually Joel ask me if it was okay for him to pour in the Gss [:o)]
Ok,
we now have the town that the event was hosted by and a little background form Doug and Dane on the city and living conditions. We still need to establish who won metals at this Great event that are members of the POG. O.Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
Tom Penton Gold.
There were only 6 Americans on gold.
Bobby Stults
Bobby,
Your getting there..................
O.Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
Hi Sherriff, Penton Riders were: ( Not sure if they're all members)
Gold: Carl Cranke, Jack, & Tom
Silver: Joe Barker, Paul Danik, & Eric Jensen
Bronze: Dane, Bob Ismalof, Ron Lamastus, & Danny Young
Whew!
Randy,
Your a nice have done a nice job. Now don't read the rest because you have done your part[:p].
Question: What POG members won Metals at this event. Randy hit the Penton riders which covers nearly everyone, but the Sherriff wants you to dig a little deeper...........not you Randy you already got a GOLD STAR for this months Quiz and I am sure being a gentleman that you didn't read this.[:o)]
O.Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
OK, I have been told that I basically suck at these, but I never quit, so here is my feeble attempt at this.
Gold: Jack Penton, Tom Penton,
Silver: Joe Barker, Paul Danik
Bronze: Dane Leimbach, Doug Wilford, Dave Mungenast
Other members entered but I don't think they won anything were:
Rod Bush, Fred Cameron
Donny Smith
Donny,
Your doing very well. I will give a few others that had early answers this month to do their research. Thanks for everyones input. If you guess wrong who cares. After all this is just a exercise in fun and reliving the Days That Penton Ruled.
[8].Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
O.Sherriff needs Doug or Dane to jump in here. Donny did a number on POG Members that won Metals in 1974 at Camerino, Italy. I know Carl Crank was there.....did he medal? I am not sure if Billy Uhl is a POG member. Even the Sherriff needs help..........HELP.
Interestingly enough a friend who is a guru on ISDTs always forgets to include Dave Mungenast in 1974...no reason.[B)]
Ron Carbaugh
Mr. Mungenast was'nt able to finish this one (49th, 1974, Italy) he was in too much pain from a broken toe on day 5, rode most of day 6, but ended it early.
On day 3 our Paul Danik rode off a cliff, cut his face, smashed his glasses, but got back on course and never lost time.
Paul, what was it like to ride without your glasses?, did you repair them or find a new pair?
Bob Ismalof rode his Penton to a Bronze medal finish
Penton riders that could not finish were, Rod Bush, Tom Shaw, Don Stover, and Mark Adent.
I think Carl Cranke won a gold, but he is not a member of the POG !?!?!
Donny Smith
Donny,
I think Carl is a Honorary Member? Not sure, but I think I remember reading that somewhere. Doug, front and center, please!
Ron Carbaugh
Ron,
I'm sure he could be, or better yet should be. However, most of us aren't exposed to that type of information and all I had to compare was the Member Directory. I also know there are members who are not in the Directory.
Donny Smith
Donny,
If it is true I think I read it in the minutes of a meeting.[:p] Who knows. We will probably find out it isn't true[B)].
Ron Carbaugh
Carl Cranke has been approved as an honorary member of POG. He is not listed in the latest "Members Directory".
Thanks Doug for clearing up that subject. Like I said I thought I saw that in the meeting minutes. As stated by Donny, Carl Crank well deserves to be a Honored Honorary Member of POG.
Ron Carbaugh
Next Question: Who is the gentleman standing to the left of Joel Robert(in the center) with a tie on??
Ron Carbaugh
This past months quiz was guessed early to the Sherriffs amazement except that I did show the picture around at Mid-Ohio, but it was fun for all and I want to Thank Doug and his Wonderful wife Dot for letting me look through their pictures. The picture tells a lot of how much Doug was/is thought of by the many time World Champion Joel Robert. It is truely one of my most prized pictures in my collection. Thanks Doug for the picture of a lifetime and for being such a great contributor to the Sport of Motorcycling.
Get you brain cells ready ........... next months Quiz is close at hand and a little tardy due to the 6 Day Reunion.
O. Sherriff
Ron Carbaugh
Hey Ron:
Might the person pouring the gas in the picture, be Mike Rosso? That proboscis looks awfully familiar.
Dane
Danr,
Only from Ohio[:p]. You know now that I look at it you could be right or a long lost cousin. Great comment.
Ron Carbaugh
Quotequote:Originally posted by dandk
The event was held in Camerino, and in that little town, there was a university that had not convened for the school year. The American contingent, stayed in the dormitories at the university. About the only thing I really remember about staying there, was that in the cafeteria, they used a band saw to cut the bread. It don't remember the bread as being that tough, but it must have been. But of course, I love most kinds of Italian breads, so maybe I was over looking that fact.
One rather funny occurance I can remember, was when we were getting out bikes ready for the event, Jim Hollander had his bike sitting on a low wall, sort of like on a milk crate. And for some reason, he started the bike up and the throttle stuck. When he pushed down on the back end to try and make the back wheel contact with the ground, to stall the bike, it jumped over the little wall, and headed right toward a glass enclosed vestibule. The only thing that saved the windows, was that somebody bulldogged the bike to the ground before the point of contact. Maybe Doug will remember a little more about the incident.
I have a "memento" of this event, hanging in our shop, and I'll try to take a picture of it tomorrow and get the picture put on this thread.
Dane
This is what REALLY happened. It was at the end of the Six-Days in Italy. We had to clean our bikes for crating and then disassemble them for the trip back to the USA. I had taken the whole front (forks, wheel, etc.) of the bike apart, and the bike was sitting on a milk crate with the rear wheel on the ground. The handlebars were off, the gas tank was emptied, and the throttle and cable were curled up in a compact circle and taped to the triple clamps. I just realized that there was still gas in the carb float bowl and if the bike were on it's side on the trip home, it would end up leaking out. So I got the BRIGHT IDEA to just start the bike, let it idle until the gas was burned up. I pulled the starter-handle, and the bike instantly did a wheelie, knocked aside the milk crate and headed down the sidewalk directly down a concrete stairwell, down the steps until it lay on the bottom of the steps on a landing, burning up the rest of the fuel. What an idiot, the compact throttle cable in a circle with throttle attached had pulled up the throttle slide, raising the engine to higher than torque convertor engagement speed, and off she went. No, it didn't hurt the Rokon. If only we had someone there with a quick camera.
Jim Hollander
James Hollander
Hey Jim, good to hear from you.
I was just thinking of you the other day. We were doing some filming around John Penton's home and the Penton homestead when we walked past the duplex, Jack mentioned how lots of different folks had stayed there over the years. I don't know if you remember staying there before we headed out west for some qualifiers, the duplex is located down behind JP's house.
Speaking of Rokons, if I'm not mistaken, Jeff Penton either seperated his shoulder or almost seperated his shoulder on one of those. I am pretty sure we were in Oregon and he was offered a chance to ride one, he got on the bike and gave the throttle a quick twist as he always did on his Penton, problem was the thing launched forward and did a number on his shoulder. Maybe Dane will remember more about that incident.
Take care,
Paul Danik
Yes, shared the duplex with Billy Uhl (Idaho rider with long ratty beard). I had a "room in the back" the size of a large closet, part hallway, 5 ft x 8 ft. I was living out of a suitcase set on boxes. One Saturday morning John Penton came in and woke us up, "what are you guys sleeping this late for". It was probably 7 am.
I skipped college graduation to ride the '72 Berkshire 3-day event, sleeping in a tent at the fairgrounds, riding a steel-tanked 125 Six-Day Penton. Engine seized on road section, & John Penton stopped in a Ford Maverick to help. The pipe & head was off. He looked in his car trunk but didn't have a spare piston.
Later Jack Penton came over to my tent, his Dad wanted to see me. JP and I talked, he invited me to Ohio, he'd fix the engine. I took off the front wheel & chain, tied the forks into the 2-stroke Saab Wagon and with rear hatch up, drove 600 miles to Ohio. It was a neat job, sanding old race bike frames. Good pay $2.50/hr so I could start paying off my $10,000. college loan. Heroes all around me: Jack, Jeff, Tom, Dane, Billy Uhl, Doug Wilford. Several months later JP arranged for me to be a Canadian rider at the ISDT in Czecho. I'll never forget the duplex where John gave me a free place to stay while working for Penton Imports.