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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: t20sl on December 20, 2004, 03:08:44 PM

Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: t20sl on December 20, 2004, 03:08:44 PM
What was the correct seat trim on a short style 1969 seat?  Did original seat have the roll and pleats running across it?  What was the correct trim on the sides?  Screws, rivets  or nothing in the 4 holes on the side of pan?  Thanks, Ted
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: Kip Kern on December 20, 2004, 03:16:39 PM
Ted  No seat trim used,  only rivets on each side.  I've seen original photos of both the smooth and pleated coverings on 68/69 seats.
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: t20sl on December 20, 2004, 05:38:04 PM
Kip:  Was it a large headed pop rivet with the little hole in the center or something special?
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: Kip Kern on December 22, 2004, 09:21:45 AM
Ted  My seat guy uses the large headed pop rivets, but the originals were a black rivet that spread open in the back over a small washer.  Very hard to find!
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: t20sl on December 26, 2004, 05:35:26 PM
Kip;  Do you have any dimensions on these elusive rivets?  Head diameter?  I have a lathe and the time but no idea of the size of head.  Thanks, Ted
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: Kip Kern on December 27, 2004, 09:18:20 AM
Ted  I sure don't but I have tossed a bunch of them tearing old seats apart.  Kevin Grimes (POG) may have the measurements though.
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: t20sl on December 31, 2004, 08:20:00 AM
Come on guys, someone has a seat with original rivets they can measure with a dial calipers?????
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: 242 on December 31, 2004, 12:41:31 PM
t20sl:  My old '68' Berkshire has the original seat and cover on it.  Even has a small original rip.  Also I'll get out in the shop and get measurements.  If I remember right, my old 007 6 day had brass rivets and may have turned black from age.  They were a large rivet with a washer on the inside.  I had got new ones someplace from when I recovered the seat and may have some left, I'll look.  The newer Berkshire has large chrome rivets.  007
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: OUCWBOY on December 31, 2004, 01:46:08 PM
I sold a 69 seat a couple weeks ago and the rivits were brass that turned black. My orignal 69 had chrome or aluminum rivits on it. The rivit head size is about the size of a dime.

Donny Smith
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: 242 on December 31, 2004, 02:34:10 PM
Ted, I went out and measured my seat rivets, the Berkshire has a flat brass rivet about 12mm diameter and the 6-day rivets are only 10mm. These may or may not be original sizes, hard to say.  I replaced the 6-day ones with the 10mm and they look good only smaller.  I have a few of these and some larger brass 12mm rivets.  The 10mm came from a old Penton inventory.  They are chrome and are split open in the back with washers.  Not much help, I guess????  There is 4 on each side.
Title: 1969 Steel Tanker seat trim
Post by: t20sl on January 01, 2005, 05:49:18 PM
Thanks, 242 and Donny.  Ted