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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Chakka on February 24, 2005, 09:32:04 PM

Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: Chakka on February 24, 2005, 09:32:04 PM
I was just parusing Ebay and saw a NOS 50cc SACHS engine. Im thinkling about Europeans on thier 50cc enduro bikes. There is a picture on the Italian site with a 50cc ISDT KTM. That could be a very cool conversion (not that I have any desire to hustle a tiny 50cc though the New England woods)

Chris
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: farmer58za on February 25, 2005, 02:20:43 AM
Chris
Go onto the Southwest Montesa site and look at the picture gallery.
75cc Enduro
//www.southwestmontesa.com

Regards

David
'75 KTM GS175
'75 KTM GS250
'75 KTM GS400
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: Chakka on February 25, 2005, 01:18:36 PM
Very cool David!
In the mid 80's I looked at a Fantic 80cc Enduro and considered buying it. I've always liked small bore bikes, Ive never ridden anything bigger than a 175. Now that I am older my opinions have changed a bit. My third and last Penton project will be either a 175 or a 250. I want to be able to twist the throttle and have the ft wheel come right up. The goal ride with less effort.

Chris
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: rob w on February 25, 2005, 11:05:15 PM
Chris, Here's a cool one, the little KTM #10.

http://vinduro.fateback.com/Hersteller/Sachs-Motoren/sachs-motoren.html


Baub
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: bentrims on February 25, 2005, 11:48:19 PM
Thanks for sharing that site Rob. Very cool.
Tom B
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: peter kane on February 25, 2005, 11:49:50 PM
Really cool!  I bet it sounds like an angry chain saw, or a weed whacker on steriods.:D

Peter Kane
V3442
Plainville, Massachusetts
[email protected]
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: rob w on February 26, 2005, 12:11:59 AM
If you've never seen this site, you've got to check it all out.
In 'Hersteller', go to 'Herc/Sachs', there's a shot of Speedy get'n-it-on circa 1964.
Then further down; A picture of Doug Wilford riding the Herc/Sachs ****el at the Isle of Man.
That reminds me of a moment from the last VMD at Mid-Ohio....Doug, Speedy, and I talk'n about ****el's. It's hard to find better company, with more interesting stories than those two. I really appreciate days like those. How many more days 'til that again?
Thanks

Bob
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: rob w on February 26, 2005, 12:24:20 AM
(((((((((TESTING, ONE, TWO))))))))))
Wow, I guess you can't say ****EL on this site, I wonder why?

****LE........how's that [:0]

Okay, so that's the way you want to be, eh?  Waaankle, or Rotary. [}:)]


:DBob
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: Mark Annan on February 26, 2005, 11:01:21 AM
It would be a fairly easy conversion too.  The rear motor mounts are the same as the larger 100/125 motors.  A little fabrication for the front mount and away you go.

Mark
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: firstturn on February 26, 2005, 11:50:44 AM
Actually in the old days, 1970's, there was a conversion kit that maintained the same bottom end and had a different rod,cylinder and piston.  Now if someone hadn't cleaned out the old shop and thrown it out it would have been nice to actualy build one.

Ron Carbaugh
Title: I may be crazy but....50cc SACHS?
Post by: Chakka on February 26, 2005, 12:16:27 PM
Rob - Thanks for that link. The KTM on the Italian site is THE BOMB! I wonder if it used a custom frame? It looks like an MC5 style frame with tiny tube diameter. Super cool.

Peter - I have an book of dirtbike tests where they test a Fantic 50cc and the writer said the noise was that of a constant bee-buzz in his head!