I do not know if any POG members are bidding on the 125 Siz Day that is on ebay right now. The price is way high and the bidder with 0 feedback is also bidding on the Sherpa T from the same seller. Something does not look right about all this.
Not to mention that the seller is breaking Ebay and PayPal rules by making the buyer pay the PayPal fees.
Donny Smith
Hi all,
I too was surprised at the price of this machine and some of the wording in the description. I've come across two scams for bikes and quads on ebay recently so who knows. Not sure if this one is a scam or not. Could be targeted to take advantage of someone traveling to Daytona for bike week since Jacksonville was the location. Bottom line is error on the side of caution.
Dave McCullough
Someone reported this to ebay and the auction was removed!?!?!?!?!
Donny Smith
I was going to buy the Sherpa T and was interested in it because I am 50 miles from Jacksonville. I saw the BS going on and stopped bidding. I also asked to see the bike and no responce.
The Six Day is back on eBay.
Spencer Gaydon
Lubbock, TX
Quotequote:Originally posted by OUCWBOY
Not to mention that the seller is breaking Ebay and PayPal rules by making the buyer pay the PayPal fees.
Donny Smith
ebay pulled an auction on a CZ that I was looking at because the seller included the PayPal fees.
George,
It is against Ebay and PayPal Policy to charge the buyer the PayPal fees. If a seller uses PayPal, they must include any anticipated PayPal fee into the starting selling price. Once it is established that a listing is in violation of any Policy, the remove the listing. If a seller is in violation 3 or 4 times, they will be banned Ebay and or PayPal.
Donny Smith
As a casual observer on this site and e-bay I noticed the same thing.
Price seemed unusually high and two bikes removed for the previous
mentioned rule breaking.
I occasionally see bidders upping their own bids for no apparent reason, newbies that don't know what they are doing I guess.
I've never done e-bay but that just looks suspicious or naive.
Maybe it's just me but some bikes (not just Pentons) look pretty
good but will have a rusty area on part of the pipe or footpegs and
swingarm nut in the case of the CZ. Haven't these people heard of spray paint or a wire brush? It would give a slightly better impression of the bike if it didn't look like it had been outside.
Just my 2 cents.
Jim A
I got a note from ebay saying the seller's account has been suspended
Jim A,
I don't know about bidders upping their own bids, but I have seen that when you up your maximum bid, your name is added to the bidding list again. I went throught that last week buying a chain saw. When I upped my maximum bid, my name again appeared above my name on the list, but the actual bid didn't increase.
Dane
It looks like this bike still sold for a high price. Other than a good pipe it doesn't look that great. Rusty wheels, no lights, no heat shield, wrong shocks, wrong fenders, mikuni carb. All the hard to find stuff is gone. Whats up [?]
Dennis Jones
I bid on it and was truely amazed at the money it brought. I wonder if it was legit.[xx(]
I have wondered at times about the amount of "shill" bidding that is/could be going on. For those that don't remember the trick from the movies, you would get your buddy to throw a couple of bids in to jack the price up and if they accidently "won" it, the sale actually didn't take place but, looked like it did. I think it's BS but some folks have no problem what-so-ever doing it. Thoughts?
Mike H.
[email protected]
Mike,
I actually cought someone doing that to me. And it was someone I know. So it does happen. Not sure how much it happens, but it does. Thankgoodness they aren't a POG member but they are a member of another Vintage group. No long my friend!!!
Donny Smith
I don't think the price is to much, based on that there is not that many pentons to go around for everyone .I get calls once a month for me to find folks a penton ,and they wonder where one would find these bikes as well. Make sure when you bid to ckeck the other bidders history , to see if he has a vintage background of buying and selling as well.
And dont bid with some who has just sigined up, or has a zero feed back.Most likely they might be a ringer.I do not worry to much when the item is less than fifty bucks or so. .I once saw a penton sell for $4560. 00 and there was a zero feed back in the mix and had never bought anything on the BAY. Just do your home work. GD;)
Ebay is no different than big auctions that have shill bidders. Don't think for a moment that these big auctions for cars don't have shills in the crowd. I have noticed shills bidding on pentons and other vintage bikes and sometimes I just don't bid... Other times I get beat by a shill and I get a second chance as I did with a racing engine last week. I gracefully declined.
On the Penton that went for $4560.00 it was for real which surprised me since I was the second highest bidder at I believe $4525.00. But I agree with gooddirt it did look fishy.
I think that as long as there is auctions there will be games played, but on the good side ebay has brought out parts that I had looked for for years and never found, or found the part just to be told it wasn't for sale. Just my take.
Ron Carbaugh