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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: 454MRW on March 26, 2006, 11:52:55 AM

Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: 454MRW on March 26, 2006, 11:52:55 AM
There is a Penton frame on eBay that has a frame number of 607 91765 that only appears to have one position for the upper shock mount. I thought the 76 would have the dual position upper shock mounting like the '75. I am assuming from the frame number that this is a July 76 frame for a 250-400, but it does not have the GS type backbone, or a 550 MC5 frame number. It looks just like my early (311) 74 Harescrambler frame. Can anyone shed some light on the frame application. The link is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4624292593&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Thanks, Mike

Michael R. Winter
1974 250 Harescrambler
1975 250 HS Project
1977 250 MC5 Project
1978 250 MX6  
1979 250 KTM Project
1980 250 MX KTM
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: Chakka on March 26, 2006, 12:36:48 PM
Mike,

Your right, that frame is not like any 75'-76' frame I have ever seen. A correct frame in those years for 175, 250 & 400 would have the layed down shock position. It looks like a 74 era frame or....a frame to a 1976 125. I have one of those in my shop. I will check the frame number for you. Based on the round look to the frame loops under the engine area that's my guess. Take a look at my frame pictures and compare:

http://photobucket.com/albums/b60/chakka141/1976%20125GS%20Penton/?sc=1&multi=1&addtype=local&media=image&test=test
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: OUCWBOY on March 26, 2006, 01:29:15 PM
Mike,
It looks like a frame for a 1976 KTM powered 125.

Donny Smith
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: dirtymartini on March 26, 2006, 02:42:39 PM
I have the frame in question for sale on E-Bay. As a matter of fact I think I bought it from OUCWBOY, although it's been at least a year since I bought it, I could be wrong. If I remember right it came from California. If someone can verify this is a 125 frame I'll change the listing. Sorry for the confusion.
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: Chakka on March 26, 2006, 04:54:19 PM
I am sure Donny will reply but I remember him listing a 1976 125 KTM frame last year. I think thats it.
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: tomale on March 26, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
I thought that the 76 125 came with a MC5 syle frame, which included a KTM motor?

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
75' GS400 (project bike)
72'sixday (project bike)
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: OUCWBOY on March 26, 2006, 05:09:16 PM
I did sell a 76 KTM frame for the 125 last year or longer. It was a GS 6 125 that I parted out. I don't recall if this is the exact frame or not, but the 125's for KTM that I have seen didn't have the multi position shock mount on the GS, but in 77 they all used the MC5 style frame.
Don't know if this helps or not, but is sure looks to me like a GS 125 frame. I did sell some MC5 frames too.


Donny Smith
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: OUCWBOY on March 26, 2006, 05:10:35 PM
Thom,
In 1976 they did have a GS6 with the old CMF type frame and a MC5 too!

Donny Smith
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: dirtymartini on March 26, 2006, 05:26:23 PM
Ok, I changed the listing to a 76 125 frame. If it doesn't sell on e-bay and anyone is interested after the auction shoot me an e-mail.
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: 454MRW on March 26, 2006, 05:38:09 PM
Thanks everyone for clearing this up before I made a big Oops! I am trying to build 250's from 74-80 and maybe eventually a 73 and I don't have any 125's. By the way Chakka, your chassis is looking very nice! Did you rebuild the Marzocchi's yourself, or send them off. I have been watching a set on eBay for my 75 HS project or my 78 MC5. Mike

Michael R. Winter
1974 250 Harescrambler
1975 250 HS Project
1977 250 MC5 Project
1978 250 MX6  
1979 250 KTM Project
1980 250 MX KTM
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: Chakka on March 26, 2006, 06:10:54 PM
Hi Mike,

Thanks for the compliments. That bike has been in the works for well over a year now. Several of the pieces were vary hard to locate, the pipe being the main culprit. "Rocket" Rod Gorzny rebuilt the Marzocchis' on that bike and the Jackpiner that I am restoring. He does fantastic work. When I pulled the freshly rebuilt shocks for my 175 out of the package I was blown away! If you need them rebuilt contact Rod.

Chris
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: John Ehrhart on March 27, 2006, 08:08:14 AM
I, also, have a set of Marzocchis in need of a rebuild. I have written Rod with no response. Does he have a new address?
Title: 1976? Penton Frame Question
Post by: Rocket on March 27, 2006, 07:07:21 PM
John
I have not received anything from you.  Send it through the POG site and I should get it.  My email address changed in the last month or so.
Rod