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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: desmond197 on August 01, 2006, 02:13:51 PM

Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: desmond197 on August 01, 2006, 02:13:51 PM
I have been having problems of late with Evilbay and was wondering if others were having the same problem. I recently bought a couple of items and the same thing happened. I bought a Pursang wheel for $9.00 and the guy charged me $60.00 shipping. I contected UPS and figured that that wheel cost $22.00 to ship. I paid for the item and shipping relucatly.  I recently got a set of Betor forks for $30 and the guy tried to charge me $70.00 to ship to the forks. I refused to pay for the item.

Any one else have the same problem of getting a deal then getting reamed with inflated shipping charges. The perps are guys that tend to break up bikes for parts as a business and not guys in the hobby. I left negative feedback for both of those folks.
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Don Roth on August 01, 2006, 04:01:25 PM
Desmond,
What burns my britches are the rare items you leave a reasonable bid on , and next thing
the item is 'no longer for sale', nine out of ten times the seller has received an offer he/she
can't refuse and sell it offline, happened to me three times in two weeks.

That is one reason this group is so great, no shenanigans, just fair prices.
My $0.02
-don
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: slvrbrdfxr on August 01, 2006, 04:10:51 PM
Desmond197,
Your exactly right. Can usually tell the gougers from the hobbiests by the shipping charges. Had a guy charge me $30 to ship two plastic fenders from MO to OK after I won an auction with no shipping cost provided. I refuse to allow that to happen again. Now I only go after items that list a reasonable shipping cost or will ask for a shipping quote prior to bidding. I'm sticking to that policy no matter how badly I might need a part. Within the last few days Ebay  sent out messages to all registered user about the subject of overcharging for shipping. They warned of suspending sellers who won't comply. I would suggest you send a complaint to Ebay about the sellers who did this to you. Better luck next time !!
Dave McCullough
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: maicobuddy on August 01, 2006, 05:04:50 PM
Hi Desmond,
I sell quite a bit on eBay..and I try to list a shipping charge on all of my Auctions that way there's No Surprises..I do usally add a dollar or two to cover boxes, packaging material, etc, but it's there for everyone to see as I said No Surprises..as for my bidding on Auctions, 100% of the time if they don't have a shipping cost listed I email them to see what they want to ship it to me and sometimes it's a CRAZY amount and I either pass on there auction or email them and ask if they can send it a certain way for XXX amount of dollars..I do see sellers that want $8.00 to ship a magazine, when you can ship it anywhere from $2.00 Media Mail or $5.00 Priority Mail, but that's there option..my option is not to bid on there stuff..No matter how Bad I'd like to have it..Good Luck on your future bids..Buddy
[8D]
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: hrbay on August 01, 2006, 05:12:23 PM
To all, I've noticed an increase in sellers that rely on shipping charges to make theirs. The idea is to short cut ebay from fees earned off total final selling price by offering the item cheap and recouping the profit from the other end, by inflating handling charges...ebay makes nothing from the shipping and handling and the seller pays little for using ebay. Theres always someone who ruins it for everyone else.

GC
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Kip Kern on August 01, 2006, 09:29:15 PM
Steve

I ran into the same problem here recently myself.  I will pay better attention to the sellers shipping costs. Lesson well learned:(
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: desmond197 on August 01, 2006, 09:53:29 PM
I had offered to pick the parts up instead and seller would not allow me to do that. That told me something was up.
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: OUCWBOY on August 02, 2006, 08:54:57 PM
This is an interesting topic for me too! I always try to list my shipping fees on the items that I sell. I do include a bit for the packing and printing materials used. The USPS offers Priority Mail materials free, but I still have to pay for the packing, labels and the ink to print them. The worst thing happened to me once when I sold a frame. I had shipped a few using FedEx for about 40 or 50 bucks, so I quoted a $50.00 shipping fee. Customer paid for the item, I packeged it up, drove down to the FedEx location only to find out that they increased the fees and it was going to cost me $93.00 to ship. Needless to say, I lost $$ on that deal, sold the frame for $35, got paid $50 for shipping, so I lost $8.00. On the fair side of this, the buyer, who was a member of out group offered to pay the difference in shipping, but it was my mistake so I declined. There is a steel tanker air box that I bid on and then I looked at the shipping of $21.00...... WOW, I could ship it Priority Mail for $8.10 with proof of delivery. $21.00 .... all I can say is WOW! Glad someone out bid me on it.

Donny Smith
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: desmond197 on August 03, 2006, 04:36:39 AM
I can see a little bit over for packing ect. I do not have problem with that at all. But what these folks are doinng is they figure a top price, lets say for a set of forks is $100. The forks sell for $30 so $70 shipping they get thier top price regarless how well the auction goes. The bad feed back I left for this guy was mysteriously erased by ebay? I guess I will file a complaint againt him.
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: linglewn on August 03, 2006, 09:25:20 PM
I have baught ebay items from Donny. I assure you he has always been very fair on his shipping costs.

Nelson Lingle
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: OUCWBOY on August 04, 2006, 08:24:43 PM
Thanks Nelson,
I do try to be fair.
Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donny Smith
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: firstturn on August 05, 2006, 09:31:44 AM
One other thing about buying from Donny Smith is his shipping is so fast.  I am always amazed when I buy something from him on ebay on Sunday and pay for it I normally have the part by Tuesday or Wednesday.  Thanks Donny for all the great parts you have provided to the Penton owners all around the world.

Ron Carbaugh
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: lksseven on August 05, 2006, 09:39:16 AM
Don,

Shipping on your $.02 will  be $10.00 .... :D


Larry Seale
I choose to ride
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: OUCWBOY on August 06, 2006, 01:36:37 AM
Why, Thank You Ron!
Larry, I think you hit the nail on the head!!

Donny Smith
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: 454MRW on August 06, 2006, 03:30:47 AM
I am one of Donnys' very satisfied customers, more times over than I can count. It's always a pleasure to do business with honest outstanding POG members like Donny! Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 250'S
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Lew Mayer on August 06, 2006, 10:38:02 AM
I agree with you all. Donny is great to deal with.

Lew Mayer
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: OUCWBOY on August 07, 2006, 01:36:19 AM
Thanks Mike and Lew. I just received notice from Ebay that they removed that steel tanker air box, where the guy wanted $21.00 to ship, for violation of the shipping policy. Someone must have turned him in.

Donny Smith
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Chrisbo on August 07, 2006, 03:44:49 AM
Yep Donny is fair with his pricing and fast with his shipping, and that's from someone who lives in different country :D
I'd also like to say that Kip Kern (Top Bloke) rates are about the best I've encountered [^] :D Thanks again Kip.

Cheers
Chris.
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Kip Kern on August 07, 2006, 07:12:31 AM
Thanks for the kind words Chris, just shout if you need anything else, someone here can always help!;)
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Frosty on August 08, 2006, 10:10:24 AM
Ran into this problem just last week.I collect Triumph service manuals and came across one that I didn't own.Opening bid was $5,so I go ahead and commit to $11.The ad states that shipping and handling will be determined at end of auction based on zip code.How bad can that be?I don't bother asking shipping charges because I figure I'll get an answer that is posted in the ad.At the end of the auction I end up getting the winning bid of $8.After the invoice is sent do I realize that I'm being charged $15 for shipping from California to Indiana and that is for standard rate.Box arives this week and The postage is $7 but he buys a box from the post office for $3.Now I figure out that I'm not dealing with a Mensa member.I still think idem was listed this way to get whatever he wanted anyway.Mr. gouger could have made more money if he would have used a priority box that could have been picked up for free and sent for $8.10 When I sell on eBay I charge no B.S. shipping w/out a packing fee.I've had many great tranactions from the POG site.Too bad I can't buy everything I need for all my differant types of bikes here.
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Rocket on August 08, 2006, 04:45:55 PM
Someone has a carb for a Penton/Husky on Ebay right now and they have $25 posted for shipping charges.  The motorcycle must be attached to the carb for that kind of money!
Rocket
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Larry Perkins on August 08, 2006, 08:23:31 PM
Is $15 shipping on a Sachs sidecase cover too high?  Costs $5-$8 to actually ship it.  Curious what the members think about a member charging extra?  If it is stated upfront is it cool to make some extra?  

Larry P
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Rocket on August 08, 2006, 11:00:11 PM
Larry
My feeling on shipping, I like to get charged close to what it actually costs.  I feel somewhat ripped off if the charges are twice what it actually costs.  I feel if the part is sold with no reserve, why should the seller try and make more money if he feels it didn't sell for enough, put a reserve on it.  If the charges are posted up front for shipping and the person is willing to pay that amount, then it is no problem.  I have held off on bidding because of excessive shipping costs.  Just my opinion and maybe I'm just cheap!!
Rod
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: Chrisbo on August 09, 2006, 04:05:34 AM
Rocket,

I don't know about Ebay in America but I know in U.K. the minimum reserve price we can put is £50.00 which is about $87.00 lord only knows why??? so a lot of stuff can't really have a reserve. Not that I'm sticking up for the folk ramming us for postage!

Cheers
Chris.
Title: Evilbay Rant
Post by: t20sl on August 10, 2006, 04:31:26 PM
Larry:  If it is posted up front what shipping will be then I'm ok with whatever the amount or I don't bid.  As far as $15 for a sidecover, depends on how far he/she is from a post office or UPS.  Say your 10 miles from UPS at $3 per gallon you can rack up $5-10 in gas easily. I always ask if amount is not shown. Ted