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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Knute on September 11, 2006, 01:35:38 PM

Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 11, 2006, 01:35:38 PM
OK guys, I have prepared a Proposal for Rules Change that would allow the Sachs D engine to compete in AHRMA Classic 125.  I presented it at the POG meeting last Thursday and it was met with overwhelming support.  

Now I need your support.  If you have a good working knowledge of the Sachs engine and/or race (or have raced) a Sachs powered machine, please let me know if you are interested in showing your support for this proposal by e-mailing me at [email protected].  I will e-mail you a copy of the proposal as well as some tips for writing a letter of support for this proposal.  

Dane, Ron, Teddy, Terry G., Dennis, Big Dave, Bob, Bill C., etc., etc., we need your help!

Thanks,
Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: firstturn on September 12, 2006, 12:38:58 AM
Kent,
  I am in and you have my email address.

Ron Carbaugh
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 12, 2006, 01:48:04 PM
Thanks Ron!  You've got mail.

Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Dennis Jones on September 12, 2006, 02:47:41 PM
Kent, I am willing to help if I can. [email protected]

Dennis Jones
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 12, 2006, 10:14:25 PM
Thanks Dennis!  You've got mail.

Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: ossaracer on September 12, 2006, 11:06:25 PM
Kent - I got the e-mail.  Count me TOTALLY in!! I will canvass a couple Trusteees I know will support us also!

Terry

Terry Gates
AHRMA Classic 125 racer
Penton 125 Six Days (2)
Penton 175 Jackpiner
Penton 250 Harescambler (wannabe!!)
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 13, 2006, 11:29:54 AM
Thanks Terry!

OK guys, I've had quite a few offers of support but I could still use a few more.  Dane, Teddy, Jerry, Big Dave, etc...we need your help!

Thanks,
Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: chicagojerry on September 13, 2006, 01:00:10 PM
kent, feel free to send me any info to share with some of the "powers that be" in ahrma. i will be glad to discuss it with them at some upcoming races and before. but i am far from knowlegable concerning the sachs motors. but i do know enough that i believe that they belong in classic vs sportsman.  [email protected]
chijer
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 13, 2006, 03:37:00 PM
Hey Jerry,

I could use a brief letter of support for the proposal.  I just e-mailed you the info so let me know what you think.

Thanks!
Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: chicagojerry on September 13, 2006, 11:31:22 PM
i got the info kent, i will type something up and send it to you prior to sending it off to ahrma... chijer
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 14, 2006, 12:34:01 PM
Thanks Jerry!  I've got a nice assortment of letters coming in.  I'll just attach them all to the Proposal when I send it in.

Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: bildough on September 14, 2006, 05:20:05 PM
Dirk Williams just sent off a very scathing letter to AHRMA with documentation direct from factory Monark mechanics on why the D model was actually inferior to the GS engines which they used. he included all the specs and diagrams showing port timing end eveything else comparing the B, D and even E engines.
He finished his documentation accusing 2  trustees of using this sachs rule change to further their own business interests and also political reprisals against certain members as the cause for this attempted rule change. My hat is off to Dirk for calling a spade a spade. I hope he will share the text of his proposal with the rest of you.

Bill Cappel
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: bentrims on September 14, 2006, 08:21:32 PM
Knute,
Are taking the 6 days and Adam to Moberly? I hear the track is alot of fun.
Tom B
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: imported_n/a on September 14, 2006, 08:50:33 PM
Quotequote:Originally posted by bildough


He finished his documentation accusing Dick mann and 2 other trustees of using this sachs rule change to further their own business interests and also political reprisals against certain members as the cause for this attempted rule change.


I do not believe this.  It is one thing to be against this proposal, I am, but to accuse Dick Mann of doing this to enhance his business interests goes to far.
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 14, 2006, 08:59:44 PM
Hey Bill,

Thanks for the update.  My proposal is also ready to go, I'm just waiting for a few more letters of support to roll in.

I am very familiar with the issues you guys are dealing with and my hat is off to you guys for the hard work you have put into the Pacific Nortwest Region. On the other hand, I think a scathing letter only serves to dilute our cause and create more tension.  In fact, since you posted your message, I have had several supporters of my proposal e-mail me with these exact concerns.  Regardless of the politics behind the status of the Sachs D engine in Classic 125, I am optimistic that those who are voting on my proposal will look at the facts and statements as they are presented and make the proper decision.

Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Bryson Williams on September 14, 2006, 10:21:01 PM
Knute, my Data in support of the D model motor is complete "Monark prospective" .  My focus is the issue at hand, not the politics. I did not chastise anyone or their business.  

I did state my feelings and how absurd this whole issue is and how it came to be.    

It is very important for ALL the Trustee's to vote collectively on the merits of this issue.  

Dirk Williams
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 14, 2006, 10:47:04 PM
Hi Dirk,

Thanks for your reply and for clarifying the status of your proposal.  I will e-mail you a copy of my proposal later tonight just so you can see where we're coming from too.

Thanks again,
Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: imported_n/a on September 15, 2006, 12:01:59 AM
Quotequote:Originally posted by Bryson Williams


I did not chastise anyone or their business.  

I did state my feelings and how absurd this whole issue is and how it came to be.    


Thanks Dirk.  After knowing you for several years I was surprised that those statements were attached to you.
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: tlanders on September 18, 2006, 11:53:37 AM
Kent,

I sent a letter to the Rules and Eligibility guys a couple weeks ago. Then at the Black Coal GP in Evansville, IN last weekend, I showed Ron Winget the 6B engine I had there and showed him the minor differences between it and a D engine. He had never seen a Sachs engine up close and personal before and afterwards seemed to appreciate why the D engine should stay in the classic class. If you want me to sign/send anything else, please just email it to me.

Teddy
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Knute on September 18, 2006, 03:06:57 PM
Hey Teddy,

Thanks for the help!  You've got mail.

Kent
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: bentrims on September 18, 2006, 07:35:58 PM
Knute,

Groucho Marx used to say " I would never join a club that would have a guy like me for its member" but I will sign onto this. I am pretty sure I still have a Doug Wilford note telling me not to go away from my B motor to a D motor for reliability reasons.
Tom Benolkin

[email protected]
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: bentrims on September 18, 2006, 07:36:59 PM
Teddy,
See you in Missouri:)
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: Lew Mayer on September 18, 2006, 07:51:13 PM
Tom, you could fly with an A motor.

Lew Mayer
Title: HELP WANTED for Sachs D AHRMA Rules Change
Post by: bentrims on September 18, 2006, 10:03:26 PM
Thanks Lew!
I did ebay another Sachs a few weeks ago that I may sink into a Rupp RMX roller that has been waitning for a new puff of life. I think I will open a new topic about the RMX since I know nothing about them.
TB