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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: Bob Seymour on October 07, 2006, 11:10:24 PM

Title: Tools
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 07, 2006, 11:10:24 PM
Can any of you fellas give me some info on a good source where I could purchase the following tools for use on the KTM engines? A dial indicator along with the adapter that threads into your sparkplug hole so you can set the advance/timing properly, a good flywheel puller and the spanner wrench that holds the flywheel and also has the short section of chain to hold the countershaft sprocket.
Thanks to all
Title: Tools
Post by: sixdazed on October 07, 2006, 11:40:55 PM
Motion Pro in San Carlos,Ca. has what you need-check their website motionpro.com or see your local dealer as i think they may only sell to dealers.

ric emmal
Title: Tools
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 08, 2006, 12:37:44 AM
Thanks Ric, I'll check Motion Pro out. I think I heard from one of my buddies that Al Buehner might have some of these tools also,but I did'nt follow that one up yet
Title: Tools
Post by: sixdazed on October 07, 2006, 11:40:55 PM
Motion Pro in San Carlos,Ca. has what you need-check their website motionpro.com or see your local dealer as i think they may only sell to dealers.

ric emmal
Title: Tools
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 08, 2006, 12:37:44 AM
Thanks Ric, I'll check Motion Pro out. I think I heard from one of my buddies that Al Buehner might have some of these tools also,but I did'nt follow that one up yet
Title: Tools
Post by: Big Mac on October 11, 2006, 12:13:33 PM
For the dial indicator/adapter, search Yahoo for "Central Engine Timing Gage 6487", on-line tool sellers have them for about $85, not quite as nice as Motion Pro's. Or cheaper still, buy the adapter for spark plug hole from Motion Pro for $11 and buy a cheap-Chinese dial indicator for around $12 from someone like //www.harborfreight.com .

The flywheel puller is a must-have, Al B. should have them. I spent $40 for a low-budget electric impact wrench which I've used like a madman for a few years now...never had to buy any other special holder tools or other since. Just add a little resistance by hand and let the impact whacks do the rest (gently). Has worked wonders on several KTM case splits, and 1 each CZ and Husky teardowns.

Jon McLean
Lake Grove, OR
Title: Tools
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 12, 2006, 05:30:14 PM
Jon, thanks for the additional information. I am going to try and get these necessary tools I need to do this work in the upcoming week. There is a Harbor Frieght store in my area that I will have to check. Am I correct in my understanding that the threads on the nut retaining the flywheel on a KTM (1979 420) are left handed threads?
Title: Tools
Post by: rob w on October 12, 2006, 11:51:05 PM
Bob, I found this, it's sorta pricey, but as a rule the price of a tool reflects it's quality.
http://www.etoolcart.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1887

I don't know ? , maybe they went up in price since I bought mine at the local Yamaha shop in 1974.

The "flywheel nut" on the end of the crank IS LEFT HANDED.

Bob W
Title: Tools
Post by: 454MRW on October 13, 2006, 07:51:12 AM
Bob W,
Is that dial indicator from Central tools in millimeters or thousands of an inch? I can't tell by the pic. I have been looking for one in millimeters, or a digital one that does both. Thanks, Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 250'S
Title: Tools
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 13, 2006, 10:43:28 PM
Thanks Bob. Yes it is sort of pricey. For as little that I think it would get used I think I'll search out the more economically priced units. I dont really believe there would be any difference in the accuracy of one over the other. Mike,did you check the Penton Imports site? I think there is a conversion formula for decimal to mm for setting he timing.
Title: Tools
Post by: 454MRW on October 13, 2006, 11:08:38 PM
Bob,
There are dozens of sites on the web for Metric to US conversions, but the ease of having to convert several different specs to US from Metric is a time consuming issue with all of the things that I plan to do with it. There was a tool vendor that I talked with at the Corvette show in Carlisle PA in August that claimed he could get a digital one, but I haven't spoken with him yet to find out whether it has a spark plug hole adapter, and I was wondering if this one was Metric. I have one that is in thousandths, but don't have the threaded adapter for the spark plug hole. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 250'S
Title: Tools
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2006, 01:41:50 PM
Motion Pro sells the spark plug hole adapter separately, in long-version for air cooled fins, $11-something. I made one out of copper pipe with a cut off spark-plug thread soldered to it, use o-rings on indicator to hold it snug...works, but a lot of hassle vs. $11. See motionpro.com website.



Jon McLean
Lake Grove, OR
Title: Tools
Post by: firstturn on October 16, 2006, 04:02:42 PM
Jon,
  Do you have the part number or page it is on?  Thanks...mine got loaned or lost.[B)]

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: Tools
Post by: Big Mac on October 16, 2006, 06:00:54 PM
Part # is 08-0249. Try http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/tools/2-stroke_timing_kit_for_water-cooled_engines   then hit # for Adapter Air Cooled.

Jon McLean
Lake Grove, OR
Title: Tools
Post by: firstturn on October 16, 2006, 06:38:57 PM
Thanks Jon.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
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