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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: pakala on October 08, 2006, 12:28:50 PM

Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 08, 2006, 12:28:50 PM
The guy wants $400.00 bucks. Should I run to get it or pass on it ?
  http://tinyurl.com/hgpmf
                      Paul (socal)
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: OUCWBOY on October 08, 2006, 12:34:53 PM
Any Steel tanker is worth saving, but this is not a 1969 engine. It is either a 70 or 71. Give us the frame number and that will help with the year ID. After closer inspection of the frame, it could be a 69 frame, but the aluminum engine didn't appear until the 70 year model and the engines in the Penton didn't have DKW on the cases, so either the engine side case was replaced or someone installed a newer engine in the chassis.

Donny Smith
Lakeside, CA, soon to be Paragould, AR
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 08, 2006, 01:38:49 PM
I asked the guy the same question about the DKW side case.He does not know much about the bike.Does not know if it is the stock engine. He got the bike from some "old guy in the area".
  Is the tank, frame, wheels and hardware worth $400.00??
  I will try and get the frame numbers. I woke him up this moring at 9:00am, he went to bed at 4:30am?? He said call later in the day. I am off to the Bolts vs Steelers game in SD, so I will try him on Monday.
         Paul
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: thrownchain on October 09, 2006, 08:46:39 AM
I think you could get your investment back, maybe even make a profit.
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: thrownchain on October 09, 2006, 12:04:19 PM
I'd be interested in the motor, pipe and carb. [^]
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: OUCWBOY on October 08, 2006, 12:34:53 PM
Any Steel tanker is worth saving, but this is not a 1969 engine. It is either a 70 or 71. Give us the frame number and that will help with the year ID. After closer inspection of the frame, it could be a 69 frame, but the aluminum engine didn't appear until the 70 year model and the engines in the Penton didn't have DKW on the cases, so either the engine side case was replaced or someone installed a newer engine in the chassis.

Donny Smith
Lakeside, CA, soon to be Paragould, AR
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 08, 2006, 01:38:49 PM
I asked the guy the same question about the DKW side case.He does not know much about the bike.Does not know if it is the stock engine. He got the bike from some "old guy in the area".
  Is the tank, frame, wheels and hardware worth $400.00??
  I will try and get the frame numbers. I woke him up this moring at 9:00am, he went to bed at 4:30am?? He said call later in the day. I am off to the Bolts vs Steelers game in SD, so I will try him on Monday.
         Paul
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: thrownchain on October 09, 2006, 08:46:39 AM
I think you could get your investment back, maybe even make a profit.
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: thrownchain on October 09, 2006, 12:04:19 PM
I'd be interested in the motor, pipe and carb. [^]
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 10, 2006, 08:52:59 PM
I am waiting for party animal too get back to me with a frame number. Then we will see what we have. I try to offer him less than the $400.00 and he said no! the price is firm.
   I may just buy it and send it to Kip to restore? Ride it at ISDTR 07.
                     Paul(socal)
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: OUCWBOY on October 10, 2006, 10:45:13 PM
Looking at the photo's, it appears to me that this is a 69 frame and tank. The front fender bracket is the wider one, which was seen on the 70 and 71. Cab't really see if it is a high breather frame, if not, then I would say it's a 68 frame. The tank is for sure a 69. Engine is not correct for this frame either way. Don't let the DKW ignition cover fool you, it looks to me like an A engine.

Donny Smith
Lakeside, CA, soon to be Paragould, AR
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 11, 2006, 01:32:10 AM
The seller has not called back with the frame numbers? With info from the production year guide, it seems to point to 69 year like Donny said.
 6 bolt rear sprocket carrier.
 Chain guard 11" along the top.Looks to be shorter than pics of 68' chain guard.
 No threaded holes on top of gas tank, so not a 1970 tank.
 Does have 5" front fender brace,1970. Maybe was damage and replaced with later year part.
 Even with the wrong engine this bike should be saved, right?
 Bike has not led a gentle life!! I think it is time for this one to come home to POG. I will call this seller in the moring and see if I can rescue the poor thing.
                Paul
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: OUCWBOY on October 11, 2006, 01:47:19 AM
If it were closer to me, I would go for it. Good Luck and it does need a good home.

Donny Smith
Lakeside, CA, soon to be Paragould, AR
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: Racer501 on October 11, 2006, 10:48:33 AM
11 Pics of bike here:
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/217016393.html
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 11, 2006, 08:24:56 PM
Picked up bike. Frame number V1088.  http://tinyurl.com/nf37f
 Now need to find out what it is? Year,engine,lights, center stand,fenders.
                     Paul(socal)
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on October 11, 2006, 08:56:51 PM
1968

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: OUCWBOY on October 12, 2006, 12:49:09 AM
Ron is 100% correct as always. The tank, however is a 69. The 68 tanks had a different decal on them. Shocks are off a 70's bike, more like a 75 or 76

Donny Smith
Lakeside, CA, soon to be Paragould, AR
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on October 12, 2006, 07:16:12 AM
Donny is correct on the tank as the '68 had a blue KTK sticker or was plain.  The front fender bracket is a '70/71 and the shocks look like sone of the ones we had on the early 80's Honda bikes...I think?

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on October 12, 2006, 09:47:52 AM
I know some of the euro factorys would use parts that were present at the time. On this bike we have 69' tank,sprocket carrier,chain guard. With a 68' non- breather frame.
  Were model year changes cut and dry at the KTM factory, like a Jap. manufacturer?
   If this were a early 69' build could it be possible they would use parts that would be considerd 68' and 69' models?
 I know this was common with the maico factory, but they were allowed to drink beer when working, that might be the reason with maico?
                    Paul(socal)
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on October 12, 2006, 11:27:03 AM
Paul,
  All things are possible...even a dealer mixing and matching parts, but I think your bike was one that was just rebuilt by a local with parts that were avaliable.  I say this because of the front fender bracket is from a 1970 or 71 Penton and I think if you look close the rear chain guard was probably cut off and was originally a 1968.  Also the engine, or parts of the engine, was/is from a DKW.  Just my thoughts.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on November 09, 2006, 11:28:15 PM
Paul,
  Send me an email so I can get a phone number and address so I can have the bike picked up.  Thanks.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on November 10, 2006, 04:36:34 PM
Ron,
 It was nice to meet you at the ISDTR. Hopefully,one day this penton will look as nice as the ones at Dave Mungenast's Museum. A other steeltanker saved. Good luck with the bike. Info has been sent.
                Paul (socal)
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on November 12, 2006, 09:45:29 AM
Paul,
  I didn't receive it.  Sometimes I don't get emails sent through the POG.  Give me a call on my cell @ 832.722.0408.  Thanks.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on November 26, 2006, 02:05:26 PM
Paul,
  Got the bike this morning.  Not bad.  The '68 frame is excellent and the other parts look good.  Thanks.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: t20sl on November 26, 2006, 05:41:54 PM
Ron:  Speaking of emails did you get mine about a rolling Aloutte I know for sale.  Thought you might be interested.  Ted  [email protected]
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on November 26, 2006, 06:21:52 PM
Ted,
  No I didn't.  I am not interested, but thanks for thinking of letting me know.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: pakala on November 26, 2006, 09:55:15 PM
Ron,
 I am glad the bike is what you expected, the next day I got a call about three zundapp 100 isdt bikes. I didn't have time for the one bike, but I guess I have time for three?
 http://tinyurl.com/yjlly9
                   Paul(socal)
Title: 69' Penton steel tanker (yea or nay)
Post by: firstturn on November 26, 2006, 10:46:53 PM
Paul,
  You aren't the only person that has that problem.  I bought another Penton because my Friend was out in California and could bring it back for me.  The 100 Zunndapps sound Great.  I heard about the down hill and rocky wash at Elsinore in detail.  You guys must have had a blast.

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas
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