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General Discussion => Wanted / For Sale => Topic started by: cag33 on October 25, 2006, 07:51:08 PM

Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: cag33 on October 25, 2006, 07:51:08 PM
Ran great one day, dead the next. Was told it was the motoplat ign. No spark. Anyone have an ignition for a 78 KTM 400. Thanks 925-516-2850 or [email protected]
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: G Ellis on October 25, 2006, 10:30:23 PM
My guess would be the coil went bad. Do you have a kill switch on the bike? Disconnect it and try it again. Hope this will help .  Later Gary Ellis
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: cag33 on October 25, 2006, 11:36:51 PM
Ran fine on sat. Sun nothing.
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: OUCWBOY on October 26, 2006, 01:31:30 AM
I think what Gary is saying is that sometimes with old wiring, many things can happen. If you have a kill switch, disconnet and see if you get spark. Also, check all the wiring connections and be sure to check if you have a good ground on the coil and also make sure the engine makes good contact to the frame metal to complete the ground process. After many years working on older bikes, these are the things to check.

Donny Smith
Lakeside, CA, soon to be Paragould, AR
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: brokenb23 on October 29, 2006, 05:08:28 PM
Just curious. Do you have motoplat or PVL? I have had all sorts of weird elctrical problems on my MC5 and been surprised when I found the problem. Like Donny mentioned. Check all connections , including sparkplug cap.
Bob Brizzee
Waiting for Paragould to annex San Diego
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: cag33 on October 29, 2006, 06:49:09 PM
Got it fixed. It is a motoplat. Turned out to be the sparkplug. The one I was using must have fouled so I put in a new plug but that one must have been bad. Tried a plug from my CR and it sparked so tried a different plug and it started. Wierd
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: lksseven on October 30, 2006, 06:54:26 PM
Cag33,

if it still turns out to be the Motoplat is bad, you can get it rewired by a guy.  A couple of bikes were running on these at the RR over the weekend and they did great.

I can't remember the guy's name, but can find out if you need it.

Larry Seale
I choose to ride
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: 454MRW on October 30, 2006, 07:52:31 PM
Larry,
I believe it is Vance or Vince Smith from Michigan up near Bob Wardlows neck of the woods. I spoke with him at the Vinduro dinner and flagged him down on the way home because I saw he had a project Hercules that needed a seat which I had on my 74 1/2 Penton 250 backup bike that I didn't need. He only charges $ 75.00 or so to fix them and offers a 3 year warranty, and for every year that he has no returns he is adding another year to the warranty! I plan on sending him a couple just to check out. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 250'S
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: Tony Price on October 31, 2006, 11:31:30 AM
Vance does first rate work.  He will be getting one from one from me soon as well.

Tony
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 31, 2006, 05:57:57 PM
Mike or Tony,
Could one of you guys provide a phone # and or address for Vance?
                                                 Thanks, Bob
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: 454MRW on October 31, 2006, 06:08:31 PM
Bob,
He is a Vinduro group member. If I were you, just post on there, or call Phast Phil and maybe he can hook you up. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 250'S
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: 3putt on October 31, 2006, 06:17:33 PM
I have some of Vance Smith's M-P's in my bikes now, and pleased to report they are working fine.  You can reach him at this address ,
[email protected].  Nelson McCullough
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: Bob Seymour on October 31, 2006, 06:42:54 PM
Nelson,
Thanks for the address. I'm sure there are a number of guys in the group besides myself who allways appreciate good resource information for keeping our bikes rolling!
                                          Bob
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: pketchum on November 04, 2006, 12:17:07 AM
Vance Smith is indeed a fine fellow.  What Mike Winter says is fact - he hasn't had a return yet and for every year that passes that he doesn't have a return he said he is extending the warranty another year!!!  Wow, that's customer service!  

I brought an old Motoplat to him at the Reunion Ride after buying a very nice new MzB ignition from fellow Vinduro member, Rico Yamane (which is working VERY, VERY well considering the punishing conditions I put it through at the 2006 ISDTRR).  Vance wrote me last night that it was only the coil that was bad and that I should save the stator for a show bike since it was so nice.

Phil
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: brokenb23 on November 04, 2006, 01:50:03 AM
OK,  Rebuilt Motoplat with new coil----PVL------MZB--??? What is the most reliable ignition system with the best spark?  ;)
Just Curious.
Bob Brizzee
Title: The KTM is dead
Post by: firstturn on November 04, 2006, 07:43:20 AM
Bob,
  Since you are asking about the bet spark the only person I know that really tests these units the correct way is Gary Ellis.  Maybe he will give us his opinion.  Just don't ask how he does his test.[:0]

Ron Carbaugh
Kerrville, Texas