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General Discussion => Penton Talk => Topic started by: Larry Perkins on February 05, 2007, 09:00:22 AM

Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: Larry Perkins on February 05, 2007, 09:00:22 AM
I am writing this because someone called me and said people on the site had said some stuff about me that was derogatory and I should defend myself.  It made me think hard about this and in parting I wanted to share some things so that perhaps I was understood better.

I realize it won't come as a shock but I have anger issues.  I thought since that had been vented on some occassions in this public forum that I would share some very private things that might help explain publicly.  This is not an excuse for when we get really angry there is no excuse. It is just the reason for it.

I grew up in a very brutal household with what was far from an ideal Father.  My Dad abused me mentally, emotionally, physically, and in ways I do not care to share.  I am talking about brutality that brought about stitches, broken ribs, a broken nose, and more.  He once beat me with a board that had nails in it.  I do not know how many times as a child that he poked his finger in my chest and told me I was stupid.  He also was very strict and everything was done by the rules of the Marines.  Our beds had to be made a certain way and everything had to be organized the way he said.  It all left a very deep emotional mark.  I am proud and thank God for having never spanked my kids nor abused them.  

I think if you reflect on the times I get angry here it almost always begins with someone getting in my face.  When someone says a bike I have invested a good amount in and am proud of is stupid I am 10 years old again, that finger is in my chest, and I am being called stupid.  Most anytime someone gets in my face I lash out because I am not ten and won't stand for it anymore.  This does not make it right but that is why it happens.

My Father's overbearing rules have unfortunately rubbed off on me and I get miffed if things are not done all according to the rules like a for sale thing in the discussion section.  On another note I am an extremely messy unorganized person perhaps in protest to having to be anally tidy as a child.  I have improved over the years with counselling but it will perhaps never totally go away.  I have learned that if I avoid the things that set these things off I am better for it.  I just am not always good at doing that.  

This is why I need to not play here.  For my friends please do not tell me if I am being mailgned or discussed and please don't try to keep me here.  I welcome my friends and anyone to call or e-mail me anytime to visit.  If I can ever be of help to any member please let me know.  To those that do not like me I am sorry for that and anything I did to cause those feelings.  I ask of you to not malign or discuss my short comings anymore and let it go so I don't get a call that brings me here to see if I need to defend myself.  

I would like to appologize on my part to Generalbay, Kent Knudson, Maicobuddy, anyone else I have lashed out at, and even whoever was posing as Terry Everett.  I think if you guys are honest in your heart you might see how you pushed my buttons before I lashed out but I am still sorry for my actions.  By the way Maicobuddy I meant the jab comment as verbal not physical.

I do not write this looking for sympathy.  I only share these very private things here because I have shared unfortunately from time to time the effects of them.  I am trying to give you some insight to understanding the madness.  I hope you too can forgive but if you just understand that will be good enough.

I truely do wish each and everyone of you the best of lives.  Now just go forward, try to forget, and do what this site was intended for-Have Fun!

Larry P
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: firstturn on February 05, 2007, 09:46:19 AM
Thank you Larry and as I have told you before we will be Friends forever....that is my pledge to you as your Big Brother.

Ron Carbaugh
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: thrownchain on February 05, 2007, 09:48:00 AM
Damn...............Larry, you do what you think is right for you. I don't think any of us here ment to drive you away, and if and when you come back, I at least will welcome you with open arms and a slap on the back. Have a good life........................thrownchain
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: pakala on February 05, 2007, 09:50:18 AM
Larry,
 I have never met you, but have follow you around a motocross track. As I dog you for two or three laps, going wheel to wheel, I was impressed with your controlled riding style. Never looking back, keeping the the same fast line,smooth and fast.
 Me on the other hand was all over the place, try to get you to make a mistake. It didn't happen.  Hope to see you at a race and we can bang bars again.
  Peace my brother. Paul (socal)
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: tmc3c on February 05, 2007, 10:13:17 AM
Larry, You are my Bud and if there is anything I can do for you just say.I hope to see the "Flying Monkey" at several of the races I go to.



Thomas Carmichael


1970 125 Six Day
1976 250 Hare Scrambler
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: Dave Withrow on February 05, 2007, 10:57:22 AM
Larry,
    In my opinion, you're are a stand-up guy.  As for your past, we ALL have baggage we bring to the table....some better and some worse.  It's just part of who we are.  The fact that you do strive to deal with and overcome problems puts you way up on my "OK dudes" list.  To me, and I hope I speak for all of us at POG, you're Larry Perkins......fellow POGGER, FAST rider, good guy, and part of the great mix that makes up POG.  Do what you think you need to, bro.  I think the site would suffer if you left.  GO PENTON!

Dave Withrow
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: OhioTed on February 05, 2007, 11:00:58 AM
Larry,

Life is too short.  Be yourself, and don't look back.  The past all too often can be a terrible burden.  Believe me, I know!  I struggle with "haunting" memories virtually every day.  All I can say, is that if it comes from the heart, speak your mind.  Personally, I go so far to the opposite extreme - trying to be politically correct all the time - that people can't even understand what I am talking about.  Just consider doing it this way:  State facts, make your point, call it like it is.  Period.
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: Rocket on February 05, 2007, 11:13:51 AM
Larry
You are still my buddy and I will miss your posts that creates a LOT of discussion.
Rod G
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: Dennis Jones on February 05, 2007, 01:48:48 PM
Larry ( THE PENTON MAN ) Perkins, See ya at the races bro.

Dennis Jones
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: sixdazed on February 05, 2007, 03:01:02 PM
Larry,From the first time we spoke a few years back i knew that you knew what you were talking about motorcycle-wise.After meeting you at the ISDTRR that only cemented my belief that you know what you are doing and are a good guy.Opinionated-maybe but a good guy in my book.Do what you gotta do-i think you just miss the Terry Everett and company posts!Just kidding!I got your phone number so i'll still be calling to bug you.See ya at the races my friend....
                                                    Ric
p.s.-Larry and Raymond made good points about less time typing and more time wrenching.I've caught myself in this rut and have made myself a promise to limit computer time until some of the projects get done or close to it.The computer is a necessity pretty much,but sometimes its too easy to surf the web when the garage is a little cold!                                             ric emmal
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: VICTOR MONZ on February 05, 2007, 03:04:12 PM
Good Job Larry. You're a "perfect human being", we all are, capable of error and, as you have done, made ammends.

Your Friend,

Victor Monz
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: DKWRACER on February 06, 2007, 09:35:27 PM
Larry Perkins, the gift of a post, is an honor that is bestowed upon us by, our for-fathers.
The POG has meant so much to me.
I do not wish, that you abandon it so!
VALUE, is @ the top of our Mast-head

Take "good care, of each other"

Where would 410 members BE, if we did not practice this philosophy

I was once a "boy"
totally confused, but, had a motorcycle......

And now, itsa a "Penton"
 Tom Brosius
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: lksseven on February 06, 2007, 09:52:26 PM
Larry,

I have VERY MUCH enjoyed visiting with you and reading your posts.

Say it ain't so.

Larry Seale
I choose to ride
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: Jeff D on February 07, 2007, 12:52:50 PM
Larry,
The content of your soul-baring post makes you ten times the man any of your detractors might be.  You are not along in having ghosts in your closet...only 99.9% of us keep them there.
I hope you decide to stay with POG, even if you just lurk to see what's going on.  Your knowledge of racing and mechanics has made you a valuable asset to all.
God bless

Jeff DeBell
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: sixdazed on February 07, 2007, 03:44:48 PM
Ghosts-shoot,i have a man eating Monster in my closet-(ex wife)!Seriously with all the weather related problems Larry has had lately he still found time to send my watermelon tank i bought from him.A true"Penton Brother".Thanks Larry,
                                  Ric

ric emmal
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: scott brogan on February 07, 2007, 11:18:37 PM
A wiseman once  told me "There's no such thing as a normal life, there's just life"

 Your still a good  guy  to me Larry.

SB
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: tomale on February 07, 2007, 11:21:32 PM
Larry, buddy, I sent you an email... I hope you got it... no need to answer. that is not why I wrote it.... I wrote it because I wanted you to know, like so many have already stated.... you are valued and your perspective is needed.... you are needed..... as for the detractors... they are the 2 percenters and not worth worrying about. there will always be such people, but that does not mean we need to let them ruin a good thing........take care my friend....

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
75' GS400 (project bike)
72'sixday (project bike)
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: maicobuddy on February 09, 2007, 01:58:08 PM
Let me say this I've never posted a personal attack against anyone on this site..and that includes Larry..although I did say he might be PMSing after seeing alot of crazy rants about someone posting about a Penton on eBay or posting in the wrong section..WHO CARES..I thought that this site was to Help people find, restore & race Penton motorcycles..so if someone feels like posting a bike or parts for sale on eBay or anywhere else..I say more power to them..everybody might not be able to spend an hour or so searching eBay everyday, but they may be able to jump on this site and see a post that could help them find some parts or bike that they need..and this is all I'm going to say on this subject FOREVER..Hope everyone has a G:):)D DAY..Buddy

Posted - 08/29/2006 :  6:22:46 PM      
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Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: generalbay on February 10, 2007, 07:39:15 AM
Larry, First I would like to say I except your apology. Our bad blood started over a disagreement of facts. With me all you have to do is prove to me I'm wrong and I'll gladly admit I'm wrong. Getting loud or making threats never proves anyone right. As far as your childhood, I was sad to hear it. And I'm sure a lot of us can recite simalar stories from our childhood. As for me I've tried to live my life on the premise of treating people the way you would want to be treated and that usually works for me. Not trying to be a detracter this is just my 2 percenter. DD

PS. Larry I never meant to drive you away, I just wanted you to play nice with the rest of us kids.
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: pakala on February 10, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
Thom,
 Thanks for the jump start for the brain. I was thinking bummer, we lost a knowledgable penton man. I am restoring my first Penton,74.5 Jackpiner, and might have needed Larry's help. But I can send him a email and get an answer if needed.
 Maybe the detracker can step up and fill the knowledge void.:-)
 Like I said, I am new here, but I liked the Perkins who didn't play nice with us kid!!!
               Paul(socal)
Title: AN OPEN LETTER TO POG
Post by: lksseven on February 11, 2007, 10:46:22 AM
Hi Scott,

Doc Holiday (to Wyatt Earp).

Quotequote:Originally posted by scott brogan

A wiseman once  told me "There's no such thing as a normal life, there's just life"

 Your still a good  guy  to me Larry.

SB

Larry Seale
I choose to ride