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oops... also forgot to mention the bike came with the taillight. sorry... I must be getting senile.

Sorry... before anyone jumps me, I mis-spoke. I replaced the exhaust(which no one seems to have noticed was broken off), not the muffler. And the comment about the "junk" penton was not referring to all pentons, but to my "ebay" penton because of all the negative comments everyone has about it.

First off, this is getting way out of hand.  It is obvious that some persons making comments about my "ebay" bike, have not actually seen the ad, or the pictures. So please... before anyone else comments about my "ebay bike", please check out the actual ad on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=521863100. If this ad no longer shows up, check out http://www.dirtriders.net/cycles/75-Penton-250.html, it is exactly, word for word, the same ad I placed on ebay on the description section.

I would like to say that I'm an honest seller. I'm sorry if I didn't say the bike was rough and I only said it ran excellent. The bike is not all that rough although it was well ridden in the woods and I assumed the pictures would speak for themselves. Check the ad for yourselves, I never "exaggerated" the condition of the bike. I never claimed the bike was in "perfect" condition, or that it was ready to "show".  As a matter of fact, I guess I did not say much about the physical condition at all. Some people have stated I should tell about each and every scratch, ding, dent, etc. so that it clarifies its condition to serious collectors. I was mainly trying to sell a bike to someone that was excellent to ride in the woods or to race. I would gather that since all the bashing I got on this website, the pictures did speak somewhat for themselves (at least to the "serious" collectors) although some of the comments made on this website were way off target.

If I had claimed the bike was in "perfect" condition and that it was ready to "show", I could see everyone picking at the bike and acting like I was trying to "scam" someone.

I don't know what you guys mean when you keep saying I manipulated the picture and "blacked" out the tires. What exactly does that mean? What would be the purpose? The tires are black. There are no white letters on them. They're black. If you look at the photos, the bike had been freshly washed and waxed (thus the dark, wet look on the concrete under the bike). The other picture was obviously "manipulated". This was because of the glare from the sun on the chrome back wheel and the freshly washed and waxed seat.  Someone who was trying to misrepresent the bike would have done a much better job at "doctoring" the photo. I think that if I had been trying to "fool" anyone, I would have "manipulated" the defects in the seat that is said to have looked like it was "rotting" off and "manipulated" the photo to "hide" the broken fins which were reportedly observed to be a "crushed" cylinder. Obviously, I wanted people to know that the bike had been ridden and did have some defects. I never claimed it was a perfect, mint condition, "collectors bike". (Although, it could be with some work.)  If it were in "mint" or "perfect" condition, obviously I would not have made the reserve so low.

Also, I gave in the ad my home phone # so that anyone with any questions could call me and ask for more details about the bike. Many people did call and some e-mailed me with questions about the exact condition.

P.S. I also neglected to put in the description that I had (since the picture was taken) replaced the muffler and that the bike came with an extra "undamaged" jug, head, piston, rings, crank, clutch basket, bing carburator - (basically an extra parts motor, silver no less) and an extra side plate. I guess this really makes me a dishonest seller. I did fool people. They thought they were just bidding on a "junk" penton and would have to find replacement parts for it themselves.

Seriously, by the time I realized I neglected to put these "extras" in the description, there were already bids on it and I couldn't change it.

I am the owner of the "e-bay" penton. I want to clear up a few details that have been going on about this bike. Yes, I guess I did make a mistake on the year. It is a 1974. The frame serial # is: 54-412-800-57. The motor # says "KTM 54-30-003-010 Made In Austria". The little "clock" on the motor is inbetween the 6&7 and says 1974. So I guess it is an "ORANGE" 1974. It also has the "U" bracket holding the rear fender. As for retouching the tires on the photo, they are not retouched. The tires are "black". There are no white letters. They are the same tires that came on the bike 8 years ago when I got it from another collector (who also told me it was a 1975).

The cylinder is not "caved" in. There are 3 fins broken off. I am sending a new jug with the bike to the person who bought it. They just have to change it. I rode the bike all the time in the woods and did not find it necessary to change the "jug" every time I dropped the bike and broke off a fin.

The seat is not "about rotted off" it is torn from being well ridded. But this is something minor.

Before you "expert senior collectors" start making fun of (or putting down) someone else's bike, you should "read" the sellers comments. I never said this bike was in "show" condition. I said "it great addition for European Dirtbike collectors or for radical riding in woods. Runs excellent." Nowhere did I say it was in "show" condition.
Chas

 

I am the owner of the "e-bay" penton. I want to clear up a few details that have been going on about this bike. Yes, I guess I did make a mistake on the year. It is a 1974. The frame serial # is: 54-412-800-57. The motor # says "KTM 54-30-003-010 Made In Austria". The little "clock" on the motor is inbetween the 6&7 and says 1974. So I guess it is an "ORANGE" 1974. It also has the "U" bracket holding the rear fender. As for retouching the tires on the photo, they are not retouched. The tires are "black". There are no white letters. They are the same tires that came on the bike 8 years ago when I got it from another collector (who also told me it was a 1975).

The cylinder is not "caved" in. There are 3 fins broken off. I am sending a new jug with the bike to the person who bought it. They just have to change it. I rode the bike all the time in the woods and did not find it necessary to change the "jug" every time I dropped the bike and broke off a fin.

The seat is not "about rotted off" it is torn from being well ridded. But this is something minor.

Before you "expert senior collectors" start making fun of (or putting down) someone else's bike, you should "read" the sellers comments. I never said this bike was in "show" condition. I said "it great addition for European Dirtbike collectors or for radical riding in woods. Runs excellent." Nowhere did I say it was in "show" condition.
Chas

 

I have a lot of miscellaneous ktm penton parts for sale on ebay. Most of them are from 73 - 79. I am selling them all together as a lot. There's a molly frame, motors, electronic ignitions, rear wheels and a bunch more. You can check the list out with some pictures of them at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=585156253&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=989284569&indexURL=0&rd=1