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#1
Penton Talk / "Spray Bomb"
January 20, 2006, 09:37:17 AM
I am in need of a rear fender for a 1975 Bultaco Alpina  (Model 137).

I see in your note below that you have some NOS fenders?  Do you have a fender for my bike?

Thanks,

Mike




Having looked at a stack of NOS Ossa Phantom fenders, a bunch of NOS Bultaco fenders, 4-5 NOS Suzuki TM Fenders, a row of NOS Husky frames and brand new out of the box CZ frames, I can say that's there's probably no such thing as the absolute "correct" color (even from the factory), simply because it tended to change from batch to batch. The changes were subtle, and in the absence of anything to compare it to, it's hard to tell what Penton Blue, Husky silver, Phantom blue and Suzuki yellow is exactly. So, if you can find something NOS, color match that, and rest comfortably knowing you have the correct color.

When matching paint, make sure you are looking at the match during the day, outside, late morning to early afternoon. It is at this time the color temperature of light is around 5600 to 6500 degrees Kelvin. Very early in the morning, or later in the afternoon, color temperature is affected by the density of the atmosphere the sunlight is shining through and will throw a redish-orange cast to everything.

Avoid matching paint under Flourscent light. Flourscent light appears around 4200 degrees Kelvin and throws a green cast.

Avoid matching paint under Incandescent light. Incandescent light appears around 2400 degrees Kelvin and throws a warm orange-red cast.

When matching tank paint, look underneath the tank. That will be your best bet in matching the color, since it hasn't been faded by the sun. If you're still unsure, rub a little "Color Back" on the area to remove any dirt, grime or "anything" other than the original paint.

Concerning spray cans.....the majority, if not all do not contain a "hardener". You spray them on and if you do any riding, they don't hold up well. It's not a problem for most, you simply apply more paint. I suggest a good single or two stage paint with hardner.

Mark


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#2
Penton Talk / "Spray Bomb"
January 20, 2006, 09:34:53 AM
Quotequote:Originally posted by classof74

Couple of points to consider...

Having looked at a stack of NOS Ossa Phantom fenders, a bunch of NOS Bultaco fenders, 4-5 NOS Suzuki TM Fenders, a row of NOS Husky frames and brand new out of the box CZ frames, I can say that's there's probably no such thing as the absolute "correct" color (even from the factory), simply because it tended to change from batch to batch. The changes were subtle, and in the absence of anything to compare it to, it's hard to tell what Penton Blue, Husky silver, Phantom blue and Suzuki yellow is exactly. So, if you can find something NOS, color match that, and rest comfortably knowing you have the correct color.

When matching paint, make sure you are looking at the match during the day, outside, late morning to early afternoon. It is at this time the color temperature of light is around 5600 to 6500 degrees Kelvin. Very early in the morning, or later in the afternoon, color temperature is affected by the density of the atmosphere the sunlight is shining through and will throw a redish-orange cast to everything.

Avoid matching paint under Flourscent light. Flourscent light appears around 4200 degrees Kelvin and throws a green cast.

Avoid matching paint under Incandescent light. Incandescent light appears around 2400 degrees Kelvin and throws a warm orange-red cast.

When matching tank paint, look underneath the tank. That will be your best bet in matching the color, since it hasn't been faded by the sun. If you're still unsure, rub a little "Color Back" on the area to remove any dirt, grime or "anything" other than the original paint.

Concerning spray cans.....the majority, if not all do not contain a "hardener". You spray them on and if you do any riding, they don't hold up well. It's not a problem for most, you simply apply more paint. I suggest a good single or two stage paint with hardner.

Mark