Penton Tank Tool Bag

[Philippe Vandewalle]

 Hello from London UK

I am new to your website and just purchased 5 weeks ago a 400 GS6 1977/78
cannot attach any pictures!???

By the way, my bike comes from USA (been told!?), badly painted and badly maintained before and believed to be an ISDE one, with everything from 1977 except the frame been an early 1978 with the centre stand, is it possible?
Frame: 801 16208
Engine: 7-5505786

This KTM is now is pieces and will be repainted accordingnly with a grey frame, orange tank & side panels etc...
same as the beautiful one belonging to one of your member ROB W that I must thanks for inspiring me to restore my bike properly!

so, wanted ....very much wanted a tank tool bag as on his pictured bike.
any condition will do (may re-copy) but of course if usable and old...that would be a prefect addition to my Penton.

many thanks from a French enthousiast living for the last 26 years in UK.
own 11 vinduro bikes, from CZ, SWM's, Can-am, CCM Armstrong,Cotton, Beta GS,and 2 Bultacos matadors.
the KTM is my first ......for many years, I used to have a 125 GS 1979 Brand new, that was great, I was young and fit!

One life, live it!

Philippe.

[hankthecrank]

Hello Phillipe!  Welcometo this site. It sounds as if you are no stranger to Vintage bikes. You will find all you need to kinow about Pentons/KTM's right here. If this group cannot supply the answer to a question the will know where to find it.Again Welcome! Hank

Hank Rinehart

[454MRW]

Phillipe,
By the frame number starting with 801, your bike should be a 1978 GS-6 which is a rare bike, but should have an orange frame and white tank and side panels. I have a 78 250 GS-6 myself, but it is currently dissasembled patiently waiting for me to restore it, although the engine is done. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
75 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
74 CR250M 07 CR125R & CR150R

[Philippe Vandewalle]

First of all, thank you all for your contacts & replies

My little problem is without pictures...it is difficult to explain the situation with this bike!
OK, I try like this:
all the bike, meaning the aluminium tank, Marzocchi G1, leather strap, old type exhaust, all look like the one from ROB W exactly the same except the frame is from a year after???

And that the reason it had an orange frame, but as well orange tank & side panels.
I would not imagine an individual changing the frame (except if very much damaged, but again at what cost!?) so, would it be possible that an ISDE Team did have a proper late 1977 400 GS into a 78 frame?
Even the engine is stamped November 1976 on the left casing (Clock style)
I have contacted many enthusiasts in Austria but yet did not get any luck with my search...from where comes this motorcycle?
USA? Yeh! But my hubs are not black?? Germany or else? Maybe but no records of it

So, that is not the end of my world, I will take a decision in few weeks how to paint the beast, and even if it does not match all taste, I do like the 77 model, or maybe polish the tank?

Next week I will sign up for "You tube" (or else) to get my photos on the web as slide show and it may help.

For now, many thanks guys, and I am very confident of whatever will be the outcome, this bike will be special to me!

One life, live it

Philippe.

[454MRW]

Philippe.
Here are a couple of file pics of a 1978 250 GS6, just for referrence. The 1978 models did have silver hubs, and although these pics have orange painted shock reservoirs, I don't remember seeing any that were not gray in color, and did not have Averbis on the side panels, and the front forks are leading axle Marzocchi on the bigger bikes here, as does my 250 and your 400. All of the US models have fiberglass tanks, but I know other bikes such as Suzuki PE models were required to have aluminum tanks for the overseas models. Maybe the overseas models used the orange 1977 style side panels as well. Mike
If you want to email me some pics of your bike, I would gladly post them for you. Mike [email protected]
 


Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
75 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
74 CR250M 07 CR125R & CR150R

[454MRW]

Here is the latest from Philippe including his pics. Mike
Dear Mike (if I may?)
First of all, a thousand thanks for interacting with my quest on the "PentonUSA" web site
Then I saw you personal email and that is great as I can now send some picture of this mystery bike.
The pictures have been taken the next day of the purchase, still with German number plate (even if it's been bought in Wales UK!) and in a non running condition...
The following day, after 3 hours of messing around, the beast did start for few minutes.......
It was a scary moment as the chock cable broke inside the big BING and the engine did get stuck ¾ of the open throttle (but luckily I repaired first the electrics and most of all, the kill switch!)
 Few days after, fully dismantled and that was 3-4 weeks ago.... I am now (next Monday been my day off!) going to my painter with the frame, swing arm, tank, side panels etc....
I have already spent the equivalent of $600 with engine bits, new rings, all seals, chain, all bearings, all rubber bits and lots of new bolts & nuts.... As well of proper mudguards (rear will be like the 77 with the round CEV tail light)
As mentioned, that will be my 11th vintage enduro bike and 7th full restoration...
I am very excited as I love the KTM frame and buts & pieces beautifully crafted.
So, here we go, look at my pictures, you will quickly see that its 90% a 1977 model, except the frame, centre stand and foot rest from 1978.
In all, I think I took a decision (right or wrong?) to paint it like the 77 model, just because it will fit more the tank and the original period.
The bike was in Germany used by an ISDE rider, before the "Silly previous owner" that cleaned it all, he told me that marks of odd paint (yellowish and some green) were on the wheels, tyre security block bolts, head engine, swing arm, etc... but he did clean it off and very badly re-sprayed "here & there"
Anyway, as mentioned, even if I would never really know the history of this bike, the most important is the model and what it represents......the last era of the Penton, with aluminium tank and extra bits....and it will be great addition to my collection
Once again,
Many thanks,
Best regards,
Philippe.

[Steve Minor]

Here's your tank bag.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vintage-Leather-Tool-Bag-Husqvarna-Penton-AHRMA-Enduro-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4154a54796QQitemZ280592992150QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


Steve Minor
Wilmington, NC

[Philippe Vandewalle]

Whoaa! THANKS A LOT!

I knew our American cousin will be of great help....as usual!;)

Thx, Philippe

one life, live it!

[t20sl]

Philippe:  Here is same bag , looks new a lot cheaper.  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Enduro-leather-tool-tank-bag-handmade-US-quality-mini-/280592742893?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4154a179ed#ht_500wt_975

Ted

[Philippe Vandewalle]

Thanks Ted & Steve and everyone for your contacts...

I have emailed both sellers and await their answers...shipping should not be too expensive.

Regarding the old KTM, do anyone knows where to find the "old style seat cover" with KTM and in smaller writting PENTON  on the rear of the seat!

we have lots of sellers in UK & of course Austria & Germany, but that does not have Penton wording!
I may not get the PENTON decal for the tank...but the seat cover could be great and appropriate!

will let you know more about the tool bag and the 400 GS6 progress...

Garage is getting very cold, snow may reach us soon in south UK, but enthousiat is high to restore this beast and to hear the engine run accordingly!

Philippe.

[Steve Minor]

Philippe...

First: Welcome to the Penton Owners Group. These are the best guys I ever had the pleasure of knowing. Ask all the questions you want. Someone will give you an answer.

Second: If you don't have a manual for your bike, you'll need one. Fellow POG member Al Buehner can fix you up with a manual and most every part you'll need. His contact information (and many other suppliers) can be found on the website home page under "suppliers". As a shortcut, I am showing his website below.

Third: Have fun with your new "scoot".


http://www.pentonpartsusa.com/INDEX.htm

Steve Minor
Wilmington, NC

[Philippe Vandewalle]

Oops!

Silly me! I bought the "Penton Folder" from Al Buehner and did check for the orange front headlight assembly ......but of course did not check properly his substancial listing, and yes (Thank you again!) I found the seat cover![:I]

so, more $ will be soon leaving my account!

Talking about USA purchased item, I got the Tank toll Bag that was my first query on your site...from the second Ebay listing, the guy was extremely quick to answer, good total price with the shipping and very helpful, pity he did have only one left...it could equaly been great on my Can-am...but at least I am thankfull for this brillant result!

and indeed, all of you that I will never meet except this temporaly KTM Penton connection, you are a great bunch of guys...in UK it's a bit more reserved and if one of you need some tips about SWM's (yes I know we are on a Penton site, not Italian mafia) but I have now 5 of those and that is my "cup of tea"! Nostalgia is a strange thing, but by now, you know my moto...one life, live it!

I booked my place in the next UK event, a 2 days Rally in Yorkshire, see my last year misery on //www.vindurouk.com ....look for vinduro 77 as my user name and "classic & modern cocktail" as topic.
so, next year on the 400 KTM, I will hopefully not try to hard and enjoy the company and finish the race... Huummm!?

bye for now, Philippe.