Mikuni Carburetor on a Penton /KTM 250

Started by johnacapp, February 21, 2013, 03:26:32 PM

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Mick Milakovic

I agree with Mac on the 34 being best fit for the available area between intake and air box.  However, my 250 starts easy and runs very strong staying with the stock 34 bore.  It took some jetting and gearing changes, but the bike runs stronger and faster than I'll ever make it go!  Also agree with Mac on the money issue:  I'm  always telling friends and young people how affordable (by comparison) vintage bikes are to modern.

Mick
Mick

tomale

I think Mac is remembering my bike. That's what I did,  I installed a 34 mikuni bored out to a 36.  It works great.  If you check some of my old  posts you will find what I did and how I jetted it.

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76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
74' 1/2 440 maico
70' 400 maico (project)
72' cr125 Husky (project)
93' RMx 250 suzuki

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
74\\\' 1/2 440 maico
70\\\' 400 maico (project)
93\\\' RMx 250 suzuki
2004 Suzuki DL1000
1988 Honda Gl 1500
2009 KTM 400 XC-W

Mike Hufnagel

I went with the 36mm only because I already had 2 of them. Had to drop down to a leaner slide though.

'12 Husaberg TE300
74 Yamaha TY 250
84 Yam IT200
75 Jackpiner w/ 250 eng.
82 KTM GS250II (import)
82 KTM 495 (2)
98 KTM 300mxc
04 KTM 125 SX
00 KTM Duke 2/rd. racer
06 KTM 950 Adv.
08 Suzuki DR70Z
\\\'12 Husaberg TE300
74 Penton Wassels
74 Yamaha TY 250
77 Yamaha TY 175
74 Jackpiner w/ 250 eng.
82 KTM GS250II (import)
77 Yamaha RD 400 Daytona Café replica
81 Ktm mx 495
12 Ktm RC8R
04 Honda xr 100
06 KTM 950 Adv.

johnacapp

To all,
I am responding to an earlier post of mine about putting a Mikuni Carburetor on my 250 Penton.

I want to be prepared and dialed in for the OVBSAOC reliability ride at the end of May!

I am hoping that I can call on the collective experiences of the group for help?  I am planning on going with a 34 mm, I am looking for photos and more information on jetting, intake manifold connections and what sounds to be the toughest/biggest issue back of Carburetor to air box!!!

I have contacted Jerry at Carb Parts warehouse and was told that he has a complete set up with some kind of aluminum piece for the air boot but he would not send a picture. I am not sure but I feel my current air boot will not be able to be used with a Mikuni?  Can anyone enlighten me on these issues?

 (Please send pictures?)
John Capp

Dale Sonnenschein

John, I think you will have to get the carb first and see what needs to be done to make it fit. I put a 36mm and there was some work involved to fit it. A 34mm may not be as hard to fit. The air boot may be close to fitting. It's a process that you just have to go a piece at a time. Maybe someone else here did a 34mm and can help out.

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johnacapp

Thanks Dale,

I understand all that, I have an inquiry to CPW about their set up just looking to minimize the learning curve.

I want to ride more and wrench less (my goal)
John Capp

Mick Milakovic

John, I didn't have to do anything to my air box or boot for the 34, but it's a struggle for sure.  In cold weather I have to soak the boot in hot water to get it soft, in warm weather I can do it as-is.  My boot is an original, hard-as-nails boot; someday I'd like to get a soft re-pop.  I did cut the intake manifold 3/4" to help in clearance.  Hope this helps,

Mick
Mick

johnacapp


Mick,
Thanks

Is there any way you could share with me your jet specifications your running so I have a starting point?

I have an old posting where you state 210 main & 40 pilot and 1 turn out on airscrew is this what you are still using?
 
What needle groove are you on?

I am assuming everything else is stock Mikuni VM 34-168?

My air boot is a new one from Al B. it seems to be almost vinyl "very stiff", Honestly it doesn't fit the bing very well it so tight length wise that it appears almost folded upon itself if that makes any sense.

I know the back of Carb. to air box connection is going be challenging!
John Capp

Daniel P. McEntee

On those stiff air box/carb boots, warm them up with a hair dryer to get them soft and then hit them with some Armorall right away and work it in with your hands. May take repeated applications but should help.
  Type at you later,
   Dan McEntee

Mick Milakovic

John, those are my settings.  haven't touched them in two years and going strong, needle in the middle clip.

Mick
Mick