Sachs -MX bikes in USA?

[jon]

I remember Frank Stacy had a factory ride with Sachs, but it fell apart. Did Sachs ever sell any bikes in the USA 125,250,400? Any pictures, where they any good?thanks

[Larry Perkins]

Yes, No, and yes.  Actually a beautiful 250 in pics in an old VMX issue and info.  Believe it is owned by a POG member that could shed some light here.

Larry P

[Doug Wilford]

No Sachs bikes in the US after 1970  DKW in place of Sachs early years.  1975 Hercules was sold in the US - No more DKW   Frank on a 250 Hercules maybe, (memory fade)
Havve Fun!

[Larry Perkins]

Doug,

There were some Blue 250 Sachs bikes at National MX races in I think 1976 or 1977.  I am fairly sure Frank rode one at least once.  I was also thinking that Gary Roach's Dad has one and it was the one in VMX.  I have wacked my head too many times[B)] and do have some memory troubles from back then because of my short coma in late 75[xx(] but I think these things are right.  

On a side note I have a friend that just bought one of these Sachs 250s from Europe and has brought it here.  He posted about it here looking for some parts help awhile back.

Larry P

[Rain Man]

jon, I have a 1969 Sachs 125 cross country with a 5a motor in it. Not a moto crosser. It was possibly brought over from Canada, seeings I bought it sorta close to our border. The gas tank was toast and now it has a Deek tank on it. Other than that its box stock, except for the the DW tuned motor

Raymond
 Down East Pentons

[jon]

I have a picture of Frank Stacy on a Sachs 250mx in 1977 Trans AMA race I believe. It has a after-market aluminum swing-arm, weird gas tank. Just wonder if there's a few around,would be a great bike to restore.

[bentrims]

I think a few blue 250 Sachs did come down through Canada. I remember in 1977 a local Michigan rider taught MX schools at Red Bud and had one. Beautiful looking bike with lay down shocks.

[smkt342]

The blue 1978 Sach's Willie Bauer Replica is the bike I think you are talking about. Helmut Clasen has GS'd his bike which began life as 5 speed mx, very light, very powerful.  He added a rear frame loop, lights, beefed up the swingarm, changed it to 7 speed, spark arrestor I think, much more of his six day tricks.

I have one, mine was GS'd a bit back in the day by a rider from Alberta and ridden in Hare Scrambles.  Not as much as Helmuts but mines has lights, spark arrestor and came over as a 6 speed where almost all were 5 speed.  His says 5a on the plate and mine says 6a, it's not a converted 5 speed.  These were efforts to have a very very light enduro that would fly.

If I can answer any questions let me know but Helmut is the authority on these bikes.

Keith

[jon]

Yes I believe Frank Stacy's was a 7 speed,I would love to see pictures. So it seems none where sold in the USA in 1977 then To bad I would have liked to restore one, I'll try too find a 250 Harley mxer or may be a 1977 Montesa.Thanks

[Dwight Rudder]

Franks bike was a Sachs GP250 5 speed.  It was brought in by Hercules which is owned by Sachs.  There were less than 500 of these made world wide. The same engine cases were used in the 7 speeders.  There were no Sachs 7 speed 400cc bikes.  Only a so called "350" sold under the Hercules name which was actually a 255cc bike. The 250 was a 245cc. I have a factory MC125RV engine which I need to find a rolling chassis for.
Cher'o,
Dwight

Dwight Rudder
7 time ISDT / E medalist
8 time National Enduro Class Champion.

[sixdazed]

Hi Dwight,Which rolling chassis are you looking for-Sachs/Hercules or KTM?Hope all is well with you.Thanks for the good Herc 125 advise at ISDTRR-(shift,shift,shift,shift,shift,shift,shift!).Later,Ric                 P.S.-What does MC125RV stand for,-Liquid cooled?

ric emmal

[Dwight Rudder]

quote:Originally posted by sixdazed

Hi Dwight,Which rolling chassis are you looking for-Sachs/Hercules or KTM?Hope all is well with you.Thanks for the good Herc 125 advise at ISDTRR-(shift,shift,shift,shift,shift,shift,shift!).Later,Ric                 P.S.-What does MC125RV stand for,-Liquid cooled?

ric emmal

I am looking for a complete GS125/7a 1976-78.  I don't care if the engine is a total waste , locked up etc.  The MC125RV is a factory only REED VALVE model. My friend , Leo Keller in Germany gave it to me as he had no plans to use it.
I am hoping it has more low end than the standard GS125/7a being that it has a reed valve but Leo says it is like a road race motor.  Sounds familiar, eh ?
Dwight

Dwight Rudder
7 time ISDT / E medalist
8 time National Enduro Class Champion.

[sixdazed]

Yep sounds familiar!....RV=REED VALVE.. doh, now i feel real stupid.The motor-Wanna sell it??Or trade it???
                    Ric

ric emmal