Peace Pipe Enduro / Greenville, Ohio/ 11/14/2010

[Tim Grow]

Gentlemen and Ladies-
The Treaty City Motorcycle Club will have their annual Peace Pipe Enduro on November 14, 2010; key time at 10:00.  The club has chosen to include a "Sportsman Class" which allow for non-AMA and non-District riders to compete in the event for a $20 entrant's fee. This past year Craig Hayes, Dave Parker, and I road the event with success on a brace of 3 post-vintage Husqvarnas (no disc brakes, please).  Having 3-entries also afforded us "team status" of which "Team Vintage" finished 3rd-Overall Team; we happened to be bested by Team-(Nick)Faringher and Team-Klamfoth.  Craig, Dave, and I are returning for 2010. There is an early commitment from Dave Lamberth and three-other AHRMA members (Teddy, Tim Hamilton, and Mike Anderson) expressed their intent riding this year.  This past year's event presented a magnificent level of support from the participants, spectators, and those manning the checks.  The length will be about 65 miles, actual.  This is an "Old School, 24 mph enduro".  The event is well-run and recall it to be the oldest-ran Enduro in the Great State of Ohio. The Club is located 4-miles west of Greenville, Ohio on State Route 571.  Please consider "booting up" as there will also be an "traveling vintage team-trophy", that is seemingly destined for Wisconsin...?  If any questions, shoot me an email or call 937-623-0702.  Thank you.  Tim

[Paul Danik]

Tim,

   What are the requirements for the motorcycles? Also, will the vintage bikes start together or be mixed at random?

   Given that this type of event can give the vintage rider a great chance to actually get his machine out and really stretch it's legs, the popularity of vintage involvement just might take off.  Hopefully the condition of the trails won't be detrimental to vintage participation. If the hosting club looks at vintage participation as a means to increase it's income from the event from not only entry fees but from concessions and other associated sources, this just might be a win, win situation.

    Please provide us with a report on how the event plays out.  There are a lot of vintage enduro machines collecting dust that might look pretty nice with a bit of steam rising from the engine and good coat of mud on them, I can almost smell the steam as I write this:)

Thanks for your informative post.
Paul

[Tim Grow]

Paul, thank you for the inquiry, please allow me to respond in the order of your questions, sir.
-The bikes are to display a headlight, tail-light, and license plate. Pointedly though, there are and have been no issues with needing them to be "working".  Also, there is no-tech-inspection.  At the riders meeting, however, it is explained that the above-3 items are understood to be "on the bike". Now, if a rider would be so disingenuous to show up with number plates...they won't let you leave.
-The bikes need a working silencer.  The emphasis is on "working".  In 18 years of both riding and assisting the club there has never been a condition where this has been challenged by a rider. But with that, it is something the Club wouldn't tolerate leaving the line in violation.
-The Treaty Club is looking to increase the Vintage participation. Yes, the current Club officers and members do understand there is a "vintage following" and really have extended themselves in addressing it on our behalf. I apologize for not doing a better job of keeping POG members informed.
-The trails are indeed conducive to vintage and post-vintage machines.  Arguably, and really there is no argument, if there is a bit of rain in the preceding 48-hours a PV-bike would be best.  As with about any trail, it "ruts-up" and a 4"-bike is at a disadvantage with all the long travel-bikes creating "that" negative condition.  However, last year's event would have been 100%-rideable on a vintage bike.  Yes, I rode a PV (82'WR430) bike.  This year it might be on a 74'(Husky) as it's been unseasonally dry and....we all need the oft challenge...
-The Treaty Club has afforded a bit of leniency as to when we chose to leave the line.  Last year, as it was the Club's and our-group's first blush with vintage-type bkes, we chose to leave towards the end of the other competing-riders.  No, we didn't have any "Sportsman Class" riders in front of us...and that was, and will be afforded to anyone participating, this year, too. It also helps as Polly and I assist with sign-up and we had/have the support of the Club members.
In southwest Ohio we have flat-ground with ditches and the occasional creek. For those POG members who had ridden this event in the 70's and 80's you'll find it very-very different as the Treaty Club has a had a real-working-focus on having an enduro race/event that can be completed. That wasn't the condition in the past; it's changed. My two fellow teammates can/will attenst to it as needed.  In the previous 2-years the attrition percentages were just shy of 18%; this also included the Sportman Class which included those not necessarily intent on finishing or focused/aware of what indeed...they've signed up for; and that's fine, too.
So with that, and Jerry Greskaukus's inability to attend on behalf of POG'ers (grandson's baptism), who's going to fill his boots?  I do not have a PV-Penton to ride otherwise...the Penton-KTM-flag would indeed be flown; sponsorship is fine, too.  Also, those willing to drive in on Saturday can camp at the Club-grounds or, like Dave Lamberth, stay at Polly & I's home.  We welcome your considering and yes, bigger-things can come with this in the future.  Best of day, Tim

[mike scholl]

Tim,
Your words have inspired me to consider attempting this event on a vintage bike.I have many fond memories of this event with my dad racing it.In years past I have competed in this great event.Many times it seemed like the famous Blackwater 100 and in 1987 it was one of the easiest. I personally "zeroed" the whole event(I still have my scorecard) and was beat by four seconds for the overall.If I only would have taken my time crossing the creek behind the club house!my name could have been on the Peace Pipe along with my Uncle Jim Fogle,Ronnie Smith and Ted Atkinson. Since then many of my friends have won this event. Last years "Peace Pipe Enduro"winner Trevor Kline rode his first vintage race this year at Mid-Ohio on my 250 "Mag" Husky. If I could only get him to ride a vintage bike on a team with me!! but Im sure he wants to repeat his win!!There are many pictures of this event here in the photo gallery section. Please check them out!This event is always on my mind in November.Rain,sleet,snow and "Sunshine" it is a fun year end event. Just going to spectate is fun also! The club house is full of "Vintage" pictures from the Enduro,MX,Flat Tracks!I hope to see everyone there! Good Luck Tim and Thank You!

Sincerely,
Mike Scholl

[Bob Bean]

Mike,
 I and a bunch of friends from Indiana rode that same event in 1987 and I dropped one point at a check.  I told my buddies that did me in.
They couldnt believe it.. I said yep.. Zeros would win it.. And thats what happened.  Dropped 1 point and I didnt even trophy.

At the other end of the scale though, there was the year we saw cars
coming at us with a foot of snow on their roof.  It snowed like mad.
The roads had black Ice on them. My brother was riding along about
45 mph and just fell down, when he hit some black ice.  
  It was a 60 mile long rut that year.   I think I got the Open A win.


1986 ISDE Italy
1987 ISDE Poland
1989 ISDE Germany

1974 Penton 250 Harescrambler
1976 Husky 250CR
1985 Husky 400WRX
1985 Husky 250WR

[mike scholl]

Bob,
This event always attracts the "Best" from all the surrounding states.Back in the day there were many dealerships that had riders represent them at this event. Local riders if my memory is correct Woodington Cycles,Rehmert Cycles,KRW and many more. When my parents had there buisness J & J Cycles it was always a battle with Stahl Husqvarna(Forrest) and the "Black Coal Crew"from Kentucky and many others. The "Peace Pipe Enduro" is a unique event. The terrain that Tim mentions is exact. In years past "The Pigpen" "The Swamp" "Plowed Cornfields" "Railroad Tracks" and depending on what direction the event was going there was "The Hill" the only one you would see. The National Enduro that was held at TCMC was awesome to spectate! The battle for the National Enduro Championship was down to this event. Team Kawasaki T.C.,Kurt & Arron Hough, Team KTM Jeff Russell,Kelby Pepper it was a battle all day long! as I said before I have many fond memories of this event and if I ever forget any I can always pull out my VHS tape of Mudd-Sweat&Gears and watch it and re-live the memories. Thanks again Tim,Paul & Bob  My "Heart" says go! my body says Im crazy!

Sincerely,
Mike Scholl

[Paul Danik]

Tim,

   Thank you for the excellent response.  It is neat to see the interest that your post has generated.

    Please provide us with a full race report after the event,  hopefully it will provide the initiative for more machines to be ready for next years event.

Thank you and good luck,
Paul

[mike scholl]

Tim,
The pictures of the "Peace Pipe" Enduro are in the Richard Christensen Penton Photo Gallery. The very first picture is a prime example of what is was like back in the early 70's. Photo #155 thru #163 and #249,#256,#305 are all "Peace Pipe" Enduro pictures. Please contact me if you have any questions or comments [email protected]   I hope everyone enjoys the pictures and it should give you the understanding of what it was like back in the day!

Sincerely,
Mike Scholl

[t20sl]

Tim:
what is your email address?
Ted

[Tim Grow]

Gentlemen-
The Treaty members afforded me the opportunity to pre-ride, and arrow, this past Sunday given my participation would be in the "Sportsman" class. With that, conditions were superb and lay of the course netted a great ride. You're looking at 82 miles total traveled. A course that is very-much focused, as noted above, on affording the rider the ability to "finish". OK, there is no "Swamp"; that section was evacuated some 3-4 years prior. The "pigpen", although present at last-year's event (at the beginning), will not be used this year.  Please note a possible error in possibly considering a 4"-vintage-bike; forgetting about the number of logs and the factors associated with crossing a log after 100-modern-bikes have done so, previously; a PV-bike would seemingly be an easier/better call (by my measure). Yes, a lot of chiseled corn fields. Indeed, you'll spend probably 15 miles on paved county roads. It's tight by some rider's standards; so trim your bars and for cripes sakes (Craig), put on some decent hand guards as the sappling-factor is "up-there". Most of the ditches are are all but dry and creeks are way-low. Guys, this will be a really fun enduro. Leading up to it so far, the conditions are great, too.  If any questions let me know via [email protected], too.  Be safe, Tim

[Tim Grow]

Gentlemen, the weather for the coming week continues to be favorable.  The outlook indicates continued dry weather through Thursday.  There is a chance of showers, 30% on Friday and Friday-night.  Saturday is to bring us a dry-day & evening.  Sunday's forcast continues with "no precipation" and a high of 50 degrees. All good, for now.  Indeed, things may change however, we may have a repeat beautiful day for an enduro, same as last year's event.  Best of weekend.  Tim

[Tennessee Vol]

Tim,
 Just wanted to let you know us Tennessee boys me and Gary Copeland are comming up for you race this weekend and looking forward to a great event.

 I hope your club can get a AHRMA National Cross Country some time in the future.

 Look forward to seeing ya'll Saturday.

I also heard Terry Cunningham will also be attending an racing on a vintage Husqvarna,so this will make it even more fun---I can't wait.

Bojo Stults

[Tim Grow]

BoJo, you're correct on Mr. Cunningham attending.  I understand he's on a Keytime/Craig Hayes machine. The weather still appears to be very favorable for Sunday, still. There appears to be as many as 10 riders confirmed attending and several others with intent to do so. If I can assist please feel free to email or call via 937-623-0702. This will surely be favorable day for the vintage brethren.  Thanks, all.  Tim

[Tim Grow]

Gentlemen and Ladies-
The Treaty City Motorcycle Club presented a truly great event. Indeed, the weather was tremendously cooperative up-to and during the event. However, the Club's efforts to make this enduro a competive yet finishable event, by the measure of Vintage/AHRMA and modern bike riders was accomplished. The race was attended by two luminaries including Ted Atkinson, on a 74' Honda CR250. Mr. Atkinson was/is a 6-time "overall" Treaty City Peace Pipe champion over the previous 3 decades.  Ted started on the 16th minute, completed the event, and I understand was greated at every check, spectator point, road-crossing, and gas stop with cheers of accomplishment. I apologize for not knowing his finish; that I will share hopefully, tomorrow. As noted prior, Terry Cunningham rode and the 4-time National Enduro Champion continues to be lightning-fast. Terry did involve himself in minor get-off in the woods near the half-way point that diminished his pace a few minutes. He also suffered a bout with a bit of buried-fence which he collected in his rear-wheel; unfortunate but undeterred, he finished. A real AHRMA standout was Jared Scott, Ohio residentand Hodaka-specialist, pretty much had the all the spectators in a lather. I was lucky enough to have Jared on my minute and witnessed him successfully piloting his Combat Wombat through the woods, ditches, creek bottoms, and fields. The spectator response to his skill and CW's competence is something that can only be witnessed; Jared, well done! The cast of the AHRMA faithful included (but please allow me to defer spelling at this moment): Craig Hayes-Husky, Mike MacEarhn-Husky, David Lamberth-Kawasaki; Terry Cunningham-Husky, Tim P-Husky, Bobby Jo Stultz-Kawasaki, Gary Copeland-KTM, Jared Scott-Hodaka!, Dave Parker-Husky, Ted Atkinson-CR250 Husky, Tim Grow-Husky.
The course length was right at 86-miles. It was as-rideable as it was difficult given some of the longer woods-sections and of course, a little "check manipulation" to keep a rider guessing....or paying very close attention to their ICO.
I can't impress enough upon the Club's successful effort to make this a well-balanced, competitive race. Its great that it happend to include a pretty large piece of the Vintage-faithful, too. Also, those who rode, thank you. I understand the expense, time, varied sacrifices to family & life isn't easy.....but sure glad you rode, gentlemen. Best of week!  Tim

[Tennessee Vol]

Guy's
 I want to personally thank Tim Grow and the Treaty City Motorcycle Club for the 1st class event they put on last weekend.It does not get any better than last weekend.

 It was a old style straight 24mph Corn Field type enduro and my 1st time racing a real race in Ohio.I was so impressed in the amount of local spectators it brought out.At all the creek crossing and along the trail and road spectators were cheering and waving like crazy,it was pretty cool.
 
 The weather was great--the trails were great---and the club house walls are loaded with 1000's pictures of the Treaty City Club Members all the way back to the 1930's including Daytona etc---it was very cool to look at.

Let me thank Tim Grow one more time.I cannot thank him enough for the help and support in helping myself attend this race.If you look in the encyclopedia under "CLASS ACT" it will have a picture of Tim and Polly Grow.Thanks again Tim for everyting and also Gary Copeland said to send you the same sentiments.We look so forward to doing it again next year.

 I hope ya'll can get a AHRMA race sometime in the future.

Bojo Stults

Tim Grow in the woods--


Terry Cunningham at the creek crossing


Craig Hayes--Mike McEcheran--Tim Grow--Dave Lamberth before the start