Wiring Question.

Started by Michael Hickey, February 02, 2011, 03:59:49 PM

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Michael Hickey

Hopefully, I will not have a lot more of these questions, but.... I am putting the ignition on my bike. I believe I run the wires from the motoplat up through the rear hole in the mud guard. I know the that the black and blue wires go to the coil. My question is what do I do with the black wiring terminal (batch plug)? Does it attach to the piece attached to the frame with the two tabs? I would greatly appreciate it if someone could explain this to me or send good pictures.

As always, thank you!
Michael ([email protected])
Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B

Lew Mayer

Lew Mayer

Michael Hickey

Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B

tomale

I know this is going to sound odd but what color is the sparkplug wire coming out of the coil? yes it does make a difference....

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
74'250 hare scrambler (project)
74' 1/2 440 maico
78' 440 maico
72' cr125 Husky (project)
74' TM125 suzuki
93' RMx 250 suzuki

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
74\\\' 1/2 440 maico
70\\\' 400 maico (project)
93\\\' RMx 250 suzuki
2004 Suzuki DL1000
1988 Honda Gl 1500
2009 KTM 400 XC-W

Michael Hickey

Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B

tomale

Ok Mike, first of all the two wires coming from the stator should have two different size connectors on them. The black wire should have a smaller connector than the blue wire. So with the coil attached to the bike, the black wire is the lower one and the blue one is on top of that... you should not be able to mix them up so you should be good.. by the way, make sure that the ground is good and clean.. and this includes all the way to the motor, so check your motor mounts. at least one of them needs to have a good clean bare metal to bare metal to transfer ground from frame to engine. There should be a wire that grounds from the coil to the frame as well.  It is like maintainance on your car battery. from time to time you need to clean the connections. I have taken to running a seperate wire from coil to the engine because it is easy to keep clean and I have discovered that the spark on the motoplat actually got better.... NO worry about asking questions, ask away, there are lots of guys who would be more than happy to help.

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
74'250 hare scrambler (project)
74' 1/2 440 maico
78' 440 maico
72' cr125 Husky (project)
74' TM125 suzuki
93' RMx 250 suzuki

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
74\\\' 1/2 440 maico
70\\\' 400 maico (project)
93\\\' RMx 250 suzuki
2004 Suzuki DL1000
1988 Honda Gl 1500
2009 KTM 400 XC-W

Michael Hickey

Thank you for the information. Can someone tell me how the black wiring terminal attaches to the frame? There is a small square piece with two prongs (prongs face toward kick starter side) that extends down from the frame (behind the coil). Does the wiring terminal attach to this? If so, then how is it done? What are the prongs for? I am baffled.

Thanks,
Michael
Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B

Larry Perkins

Michael,

A manual would help you tremendously on this and other things to come.  Not to discourage questions but the pictures & diagrams in the Penton manuals are very helpful.  Al Buehner has them if you don't have one.  These guys can steer you through it well also.

Larry P

Michael Hickey

I purchased the only manual that Al had, and most of it is aimed at rebuilding the engine, controls, and maintenance. It has been a valuable tool in the rebuilding process. However, when I got this bike, most of it was in a box and unassembled. Unfortunately, the manual does not deal with many of the smaller details regarding the bike.These are the things that I am trying to figure out, as I would like to put it back together correctly.

I would like to stress that the wiring seems to be fine, I am trying to find out if there is a proper way to attach the black wiring terminal (where the wires plug in) to the frame. I am sorry for the confusion.

Thanks,
Michael
Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B

454MRW

Michael,
The square tab on the frame with 2 smaller tabs sticking out hold the wiring junction block securely to the frame. The small tabs stick through this junction block then are bent over, or twisted,  to hold it in place. The junction block in question has 10 or more terminal screws, 5 on each side, that tighten down on the bare wires that lead to the lights, kill switch, and brake light switch, on Enduro models, and often are even in place on the MX models, but in that case most of the terminals are unused, with the exception of the kill switch. My power is off at home, or I would post a pic and a schematic better explaining its function. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
75 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
74 CR250M 07 CR125R & CR150R
Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1976 Penton MC5 400
1977 KTM MC5 125
1978 KTM 78 GS6 250
L78-79 MX6 175-250 KTM\\\'s
1976-78 125-400 RM\\\'s
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico
2017 KTM Freeride 250R

Michael Hickey

Thank you!

Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B
Michael Hickey

1972 Bultaco Pursang 250
1972 CZ 250
1972 Husqvarna 450WR
1974 Montesa Cappra 250
1974 Rickman/Montesa 250
1974 Ossa Phantom
1974 Suzuki TM400 (basket case)
1976 Penton 250
1981 Cam Am 250 MX6-B