1975 Pentons

[Knute]

Hey Folks,

I'm diligently working away on my presentation for the AMA POG meeting "The Evolution of the KTM-Powered Pentons" and I've come up with a few questions along the way.  While I've been able to find and study plenty of late '74 Pentons (410, 411, 412)and some late '75 Orange GS Pentons (510, 511, 512), I'm not finding any frame numbers from January '75 (501) through September '75 (509)[:0]  What am I missing?  I've studied the old Penton registry and quite a few collections and I'm not finding them:(  Do any of you have a 175, 250, or 400 from this period?

Thanks,
Kent Knudson

[rdrnr]

Kent,
    I have a frame with the numbers 50584323 with nothing in it.  Are you doing these years because of the lay down shocks?  If so I have a 40473374 with the lay down shocks,  it is a 250.  
    James from MO

[farmer58za]

Hi Kent
Would it be possible that those numbers ended up in other parts of the world?
David in SA

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by farmer58za

Hi Kent
Would it be possible that those numbers ended up in other parts of the world?
David in SA

Hello African David.Penton-KTMs went around the globe.
But for Africa they where paintet black,....[}:)]
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[AndyL]

Kent,
I have a Jackpiner with the frame number 504 and engine number 5-527892.  It has the laydown shock mounts.  It is still in pretty rough cosmetic shape (got it from the trash hauler) but it runs now.



Andy

[Knute]

Hey All,

Thanks for the replies.

James, well at least we know they made a 505!  Thanks for checking.  Your 404 is the first month for the lay down shocks.

David, that's what I was (still am) wondering.  The European bikes did have some subtle differences so they might have set up the assembly line for them for several months.  Another possibility, which is less likely and I hope did not happen, would be that an excess of frames were made and dated before assembly and then used in 1975.

Andy, did I see a picture of your Jackpiner in the Vinduro photo section?  The 504 date would be a great example of what I am looking for.  If possible, could you e-mail me some pics? [email protected]

If anyone else has a frame number in the 501 - 509 range please let me know.

Thanks again!
Kent

[Rocket]

My 75 JP frame #41078430 and the 74 250 is #40473031 w/laydown shocks.
Rocket

[Randy Kirkbride]

Kent,
My 75 250 Enduro has a frame #54 505 84124
Has oval tube frame / lay down shocks.
Also Red tank.

[AndyL]

Kent,
Yes, I did have a picture of the Jackpiner at Vinduro, but it is gone now after the cleanup.

I have a bunch of pics.  You want general exterior or detail in some areas.  I have a few pics of the blue paint marks on the clutch and gears.  Look to be from the factory.



Andy

[Knute]

Rocket and Randy,

Rocket, thanks for the frame #'s.  The 404 bikes are the earliest examples of the new frame.  

Randy, thanks for the frame #'s.  I would love to see some pictures of your 505 bike.  I'll e-mail you with some more questions.

Looking forward to seeing both of you at the meeting!
Kent

[farmer58za]

Kent
My '75 400 KTM has a #506 frame
Regards
David

[DKWRACER]

My 75 GS 175 has the following numbers:
Frame=545118741
Engine= 55228433
Adios, Tom.....