1978 MC5 250 SOLD !!!!!!!!!!!

[G Ellis]

Up for sale a 1978 MC5 250. Here is what I have done to this bike. New fork seals,new fork oil,new handle bars and grips.New BING CARB, seals,gaskets,bearings,inner tubes,chain,new front ad rear fenders,works remote shocks rebuilt.                      

The motor was rebuilt be me,S12 tires,New seat cover,frame painted. Will deliever to the POG meeting in Feb, if weather permits. Bike is located in Central ILLinois.   Call me with any questions 217 260 0237                                               THIS BIKE IS FROM RICHARD SANDERS SHOP THIS WAS A PRO'S BIKE            

[tofriedel]

Gary,

What a beautiful bike.  It looks like new.  If I didn't have so much on my plate right now I would jump on this bike.

Great job.

Tony

[JCHubbard]

Very nice resto Gary -- very nice indeed!

John Hubbard

[tooclose racing]

Nice work, GE.  I want to let everyone know that I have done business with this gentleman, am the proud owner of an 76 MC5 that he located, prepped, and sold to me.  Great bike, great guy...

Okay Gary...after that ringing endorsement, how about a great deal on that set of 38mm Zoke forks/clamps ya got in your inventory.  

[tofriedel]

Gary,

What a beautiful bike.  It looks like new.  If I didn't have so much on my plate right now I would jump on this bike.

Great job.

Tony

[JCHubbard]

Very nice resto Gary -- very nice indeed!

John Hubbard

[tooclose racing]

Nice work, GE.  I want to let everyone know that I have done business with this gentleman, am the proud owner of an 76 MC5 that he located, prepped, and sold to me.  Great bike, great guy...

Okay Gary...after that ringing endorsement, how about a great deal on that set of 38mm Zoke forks/clamps ya got in your inventory.  

[tomale]

very nice bike, but it makes me sad too, I am wanting to sell my 76 mc 5 very soon and I was going to ask at least that much and it is not nearly that nice looking although it is a very strong bike and runs great.. but it is stock and it is still on the stock bore..

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
74'250 hare scrambler (project)
74' 1/2 440 maico
78' 440 maico
72' cr125 Husky (project)
74' TM125 suzuki
93' RMx 250 suzuki

[Britt Boyette]

quote:Originally posted by tomale

very nice bike, but it makes me sad too, I am wanting to sell my 76 mc 5 very soon and I was going to ask at least that much and it is not nearly that nice looking although it is a very strong bike and runs great.. but it is stock and it is still on the stock bore..

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!

What![:0]

Britt Boyette

76 400 MC5 (project)
77 Husky WR250
76 RM370
83 YZ250
06 KX450f flat tracker
09 Kawasaki Versys
70 Suzuki TS250
Too much of a good thing? I think NOT!

[454MRW]

My thought exactly, or Thom...Why, you are the original owner only once? Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1980 KTM 175-400'S
75 Can Am 175 TNT & 77 250 Black Widow
1976-78 RM & 77-79 PE Suzuki's
74 CR250M 07 CR125R & CR150R

[Larry Perkins]

Thom,

Hate to hear you are going to sell your bike but I have had to do the same many times over the years.

On another note, a 1976 MC5 is a easier sell than a 1978 MC5 because the majority of buyers remain racers and not collectors.  For the racer the 78 has to race in GP class and it is at a major disadvantage; with equal riders, against 1980-1981 bikes.  Gary's bike is beautiful and if it were a 1977 it would be gone already as the 1976 and 1977 bikes race in Historic class and are almost cheater bikes as they are perhaps a year ahead of their time.  Now from the collecting standpoint the 78's are cool because it is the first year they were ALL KTM.

Regardless, Gary's work is meticulous and if I had all the money I needed this one would already have a home.

Larry P

[Mike Lenz]

Larry,
 I disagree.  I think the 78 250 can be made competive for the GP type classes.  You just have to work on the suspension and motor a little.  More travel equals less turning ability.  It just depends if you think jumping is more important than turning. In vintage, even in the GP classes I would argue the races are won in the turns and not over the jumps.  Just my opinion.

[Larry Perkins]

Mike,

Of course this has been debated before but the 1980-1981 GP bikes that are Japanese will; in my opinion, out turn, produce more and better useable reed valve power, and are about 20 pounds lighter than the 78 Katoom stock on stock.  

The cornering verses jumping depends on the track.  Take the Michigan AHRMA National track with the doubles & tabletops.  If I jump each of those and another rider does not it will cut more time off my laps than a better turning bike will cut in corners.  All riders being equal of course.  My spin on that old debate.  

My GP 500 bike is a YZ 465 so I am biased but it would eat up a 78 400 KTM with ease in most every department and its' 250 Counterpart more so against the 78 MC5 250.  Granted, mine is set-up well thanks to McNicol Racing with 43mm forks, the wiz bang suspension goodies, double-leading shoe brake plates, Eric Gore porting and head work, and a Pro-Form pipe.  I just honestly think that stock on stock that the Technology and the sheer Japanese way of getting there had passed us(KTM Orange Bleeders) by 1980-1981.  It would seem especially so if you compare back to a 78.  They not only are different they are virtually from 2 bike eras. The 78 KTM is technology wise more a Historic era bike and the last Japanese GP bikes are very close to the handling and power delivery of Ultima class bikes.

Of course rider is the main thing as you could easily blow me away on your Vintage Sportsman class Penton and me on my YZ 465.  Unless, I get to pick the track.  Even then you would probably jump anyway and eventually break the Penton in half.  I guess I will just debate it from the equal rider angle in that perfect world that debate rides in.  LOL!

Larry P

[Larry Perkins]

Gary,

Sorry for hijacking the thread.  At least it keeps the bike up there so someone will buy it.  Beautiful bike and worth more than that.  Maybe you could make it into a 77 with that stout motor for me.[8D]

Larry P

[tomale]

I know it is a shock, and it has taken me several years to come to this but the reality is that I need to significantly thin the heard. It has been cool to own a bike for as long as I have but the truth of the matter is that, I have not raced this bike in 4 years. They do not race AHRMA PV races up in this area and I would have to travel 5-6 hundred miles to do it.. So the only PV racing that does happen is our local club stuff and it puts this bikes with the 81 maico's, like right, thats a good idea, As a novice I can do that but not with the boys I run with now. Bikes are not the only thing going away and if I am to ride at all it must be done..

Thom Green,Still crazy after all these years!
76' 250 MC5 (orginal owner)
74'250 hare scrambler (project)
74' 1/2 440 maico
78' 440 maico
72' cr125 Husky (project)
74' TM125 suzuki
93' RMx 250 suzuki