GS conversion

[Andreas Piepke]

Hi All,

I am converting my 1973 Penton Hare Scrambler to a GS. I have almost all parts, only the rear fender is missing. Here a current image of the status:



I want to install the speedo drive now:



I am unsure how to put it into the front axle assembly. This is how the right sides looks (actually looked before I cleaned it):



These are the axle parts:



Can anybody tell me which parts/spacers are needed to accommodate the speedo drive? Your input would be very helpful. A photo of the showing the parts in correct assembly order would be most helpful too.

Cheers and many thanks in advance

Andreas

[marsattacks]

Looks sweet!  I don't know the answer but some of our brothers have a bike with the info you need.

[Andreas Piepke]

I think I figured it out: I removed the spacer behind the large hex nut and put the speedo drive in its place. It can then be held in place with that nut.



Now I need to figure out how to connect all the cables. The color coding in the manual and the actual colors of the cables I have do not match in all cases. It would also be great to get some guidance regarding routing of the cables. Would anybody have photos showing the proper placement of the cables (multi-switch, harness, and tail light)?

Cheers

Andreas

[adrian_goold]

Where did you obtain the speedo drive?
I am chasing one myself, all mine have the tabs broken off as they were left on the bike over the years and never lubed.

Looking nice too!



Regards,
Adrian Goold #101
http://www.ozktm.com
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'73 175 Rebuilt|2x'74.5 250 |'74.5 400 Restoring|2 x'76 MC5 250 |'76 MC5 400 |'78 250 in pieces|'81 250 | '81 495|74 CZ 250|

[skiracer]

Looks great!  Time to get it muddy!!

quote:Originally posted by adrian_goold

Where did you obtain the speedo drive?
I am chasing one myself, all mine have the tabs broken off as they were left on the bike over the years and never lubed.

Looking nice too!



Regards,
Adrian Goold #101
http://www.ozktm.com
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'73 175 Rebuilt|2x'74.5 250 |'74.5 400 Restoring|2 x'76 MC5 250 |'76 MC5 400 |'78 250 in pieces|'81 250 | '81 495|74 CZ 250|

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1982 Suzuki PE 175
1976 Penton 175 XC
1979 KTM 175 GS

[Andreas Piepke]

I have two speedo drives, both from POG people. On one of them the drive tabs are too far spaced and don't fit the wheel. I cleaned the drive and the speedo shaft with WD40. After that they both worked with noticeably less resistance. The drive has a grease nipple so it should be easy to keep it lubricated. Your bike looks great! How is it running?

Andreas

[Andreas Piepke]

Hi POGers,

I've installed the engine into the frame and need to connect the wiring harness with the front light, switch, break switches (front and back), and tail light.





The colors of the cabling I have doesn't match the manual in all cases. My question: could people post some photos of the routing of the wiring? This would help me lay things out right and avoid conflicts (too short wires, pinch points, etc.) down the road.

Thanks

Andreas

[skiracer]

Interesting cut out for the front sprocket....

quote:Originally posted by adrian_goold

Where did you obtain the speedo drive?
I am chasing one myself, all mine have the tabs broken off as they were left on the bike over the years and never lubed.

Looking nice too!



Regards,
Adrian Goold #101
http://www.ozktm.com
[/URL]
'73 175 Rebuilt|2x'74.5 250 |'74.5 400 Restoring|2 x'76 MC5 250 |'76 MC5 400 |'78 250 in pieces|'81 250 | '81 495|74 CZ 250|

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1982 Suzuki PE 175
1976 Penton 175 XC
1979 KTM 175 GS

[Andreas Piepke]

Can anybody tell me how to route the cable harness:



There seems awfully little room anywhere. A picture of the routing would be most helpful!

Thanks

Andreas

[454MRW]

Here are some pics of an all original 1977 GS-6 wiring routing that was shared by another POG member years ago, and should be similar to most Penton Enduro's. Mike

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Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978 KTM 250'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT 250 conversion
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

[Andreas Piepke]

Mike, thanks a lot! This is really most helpful. I'll put the cables in later today. I'll orient at you pictures for the routing. There is really not a whole lot of room here. I searched the POG site but couldn't find this thread.



Thanks again!

Andreas

[454MRW]

Andreas,
I had previously posted about the same scenario that you were inquiring and was emailed these and a few more pics directly to my email, these pics were not previously posted on the site, other than maybe one or two of them. Mike

Michael R. Winter
I enjoy rebuilding and appreciating Pentons!
1974 250 HS Pentons-1978 KTM 250'S
1975 Can Am 175 TNT 250 conversion
1976-78 125-400 RM's & 79 PE250 Suzuki & 2012 DR650
2007 CR125R Honda
1977 MC250 Maico

[adrian_goold]

ski racer, yes, interesting cutout, i got the cover like that. Easy access to the clutch cable.

Adrian

quote:Originally posted by skiracer

Interesting cut out for the front sprocket....

quote:Originally posted by adrian_goold

Where did you obtain the speedo drive?
I am chasing one myself, all mine have the tabs broken off as they were left on the bike over the years and never lubed.

Looking nice too!



Regards,
Adrian Goold #101
http://www.ozktm.com
[/URL]
'73 175 Rebuilt|2x'74.5 250 |'74.5 400 Restoring|2 x'76 MC5 250 |'76 MC5 400 |'78 250 in pieces|'81 250 | '81 495|74 CZ 250|

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1982 Suzuki PE 175
1976 Penton 175 XC
1979 KTM 175 GS

[Andreas Piepke]

Hi All,

I installed a GS rear fender and tail light this weekend:



The DC Plastics fender didn't fit too good, it took me quite a while to install. The tail light is a real CEV part I found in France, for a quite reasonable price.
Next step: rout all these cables and get them connected correctly. I plan to put four 1.5 V batteries together and connect them where the generator usually connects. This will allow me to try out all functions and measure all currents, before connecting the generator (and potentially burn something as there is no fuse anywhere). I'll also need to rout some additional cables to connect the front break switch which is not shown in the wiring scheme.

Have a great weekend!

Andreas

[Andreas Piepke]

Hi All,

Another thing, look at the break light switch I have:



I am lacking the spring to connect it to the break pedal. Would anybody have one?

Cheers

Andreas