Beautiful Penton Woodsman for sale on ebay

[Gordon Brennan]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282340983425?ul_noapp=true

[firstturn]

Very rare bike in original condition.

Ron Carbaugh

[skiracer]

What is that long screw sticking out by the counter shaft sprocket?  Also, that pipe looks like a Husky pipe, and the chain tensioner looks like one from an Bultaco Alpina. Are they stock items for this bike?

1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1982 Suzuki PE 175
1976 Penton 175 XC
1985 20' Hi Point trailer

[firstturn]

Good questions.

What is that long screw sticking out by the counter shaft sprocket? If you look closer you will see that it is actually a chain oiler that is feed by putting oil in the frame.  Most of the time this part is missing,

Also, that pipe looks like a Husky pipe, and the chain tensioner looks like one from an Bultaco Alpina.  The pipe was manufactured by Penton for the Mudlark conversion and the chain tensioner is a stock Wassell/Mudlark tensioner.

Are they stock for this bike.  Yes.

Ron Carbaugh

[Paul Danik]

Ron,

   From what I understand, the pipe is a Husky pipe that was a leftover from days gone by. I imagine the header pipe was altered to fit the exhaust port and to give the proper bend.

Skiracer,

   
     In what I think is the eighteenth picture a small knob is quite visible just in front of the gas tank, that is where the oil was poured in for the chain oilier.

Beautiful machine.

Paul

[skiracer]

Ron and Paul, thanks for the responses and answers!  Love all the knowledge that is shared on this site....


1976 MC 5 Original Owner
1982 Suzuki PE 175
1976 Penton 175 XC
1985 20' Hi Point trailer

[johnborn]

In the service storage area at Penton brothers Honda in the mid seventies, there was probably 50 n.o.s.husky pipes hanging along the north wall.

[firstturn]

Correct Paul.  They had a jig to make the pipe and it was Husky.  They had to manufacture the header because of the square exhaust from the Cast Iron Cylinder.  Good point on the oil filler cap.

Ron Carbaugh

[Kip Kern]

That bike is very original, have restored a few and if someone is looking for a nice original one, that is it.  A last ditch effort made from Wassell parts, Husky parts and Preston Petty stuff.  Wasn't worth 10 cents when made but now very collectable.  Good luck to the new owner, nice bike for a museum indeed:)

[Richard Colahan]

The pipe is not just any old Husky...but from the first 2 years production of the 125 Husky.
As mentioned, with the header section modified to match up to the Sachs exhaust port.
Pretty neat!

Richard Colahan
1969 V1225
Upper Black Eddy PA

[firstturn]

Agree with Kip Kern.

Ron Carbaugh

[Paul Danik]

It is interesting to note in picture 4 the unused hole opposite to where the chain oiler is attached. When these machines were first designed Ted Wassell had intended to use the BSA Bantam engine for the power plant. When it became apparent that the supply of those engines was not suitable for his intended production, he switched over to the Sachs engine.

The BSA drive chain is on the left side and that hole surely could be for attaching the chain oiler for the BSA engine. There are a few of these out there with their original BSA Bantam engines in them and it would be interesting look at one of those early original jobs and see if there is a hole in the frame for the oiler to be mounted on the right side......

Joe Barker did some of the conversions on these machines and next time I talk with him I will see if he has any specific remembrances of piecing them together.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bsa+bantam&biw=1024&bih=639&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiF19-DkerRAhUHqFQKHXyICssQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=2IEb8a1_bq0BoM%3A


Paul

[firstturn]

Paul I have never seen one with the Bantam powered one in person.  Have you?  Thanks.

Ron Carbaugh

[Gordon Brennan]

quote:Originally posted by Paul Danik

In what I think is the eighteenth picture a small knob is quite visible just in front of the gas tank, that is where the oil was poured in for the chain oilier.

Or ... you could do what I do and put fuel in there instead of oil.

[Paul Danik]

I had and may still have a write up showing the Bantam powered Wassell at an Industry Trade show many years ago, the Industry Trade Show was not in the states from what I remember.

"Back in the day" when Augie and I were campaigning the AHRMA Trials series I met a fellow rider by the name of Bob Ginder who was also riding the series. When Bob saw my Sachs powered Wassell he took the time to tell me about his BSA Bantam powered unit.

I just now got off the phone with Bob and he explained that he restored the bike and then sold it to the Barber Museum, who at that time had planned on doing a Trials display.

From what Bob knows they never did that display, and quite possibly the Bantam powered Wassell Trials is stored away at Barber.

I do not know how many were built with BSA power, but back in the cobwebs of my mind I can recall helping an Englishman find a few items he needed for his, and I also think there was a link to one on eBay in England many years ago.

Question is....do the BSA powered ones have two oiler holes, or only the one on the left side.. Might need to give Brian at Barber a call.

Paul