Looking for infos....

[Speedy]

Hello Poggers.
For a very good friend of mine who is restoring a KTM 175 cc
1975-76 and he would like to set it up as a PENTON,we are looking for USA test informations about this model from that time.
Road tests from the MAG."CYCLE",--or " CYCLE ILLUSTRATED" from July 1975.
Can somebody who has those mags make me a good large readable copy of the pages and e-mail them to me.( [email protected] )
Thank you guys.
Cheers...

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
2 x Hercules 250-7A 77
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[paul]

Speedy,  I have Cycle Guide Jan 76. which has a very nice article about the 175 Penton. Quote " Best Enduro? How about Best Motorcycle?" They really liked the bike and there is an inset to the article talking about John Penton and Ted Lapadakis and how KTM began in the U.S.
 If you want I can mail copies to you, no scanner sorry. Just forward your mailing address and I will get it too ya.
 While I have your attention, didn't you ride with Rodger and Ray Kussmaul over here in the U.S.? I was trying to dig up info for both but Ray in particular as he was nearly on the Silver Vase Team in Mass. Hollar back and the pages will be sent. there are some good photos also. Hope to meet you someday Speedy, you are one of my Hero's. Sincerely,TooTallPaul
 p.s I would consider trading my MPH speedo for a Km unit if your friend has one. The plan for my 74 250 is to represent what the bike looked like in Euro trim as most of us never knew exactly what a KTM was back in the day.

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by paul

Speedy,  I have Cycle Guide Jan 76. which has a very nice article about the 175 Penton. Quote " Best Enduro? How about Best Motorcycle?" They really liked the bike and there is an inset to the article talking about John Penton and Ted Lapadakis and how KTM began in the U.S.
 If you want I can mail copies to you, no scanner sorry. Just forward your mailing address and I will get it too ya.
 While I have your attention, didn't you ride with Rodger and Ray Kussmaul over here in the U.S.? I was trying to dig up info for both but Ray in particular as he was nearly on the Silver Vase Team in Mass. Hollar back and the pages will be sent. there are some good photos also. Hope to meet you someday Speedy, you are one of my Hero's. Sincerely,TooTallPaul
 p.s I would consider trading my MPH speedo for a Km unit if your friend has one. The plan for my 74 250 is to represent what the bike looked like in Euro trim as most of us never knew exactly what a KTM was back in the day.

Hello Paul.
That sounds great.Please mail to: Clasen Motors,162 Hillcrest Ave.Dundas Ontario Canada L9H4Y3.
I will check my old stuff.Maybe there is a VDO KM speedo somewhere.
Cheers,...
If anybody else has some test stories  for that Penton,please send me a good large copy per e-mail.

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
2 x Hercules 250-7A 77
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by paul

Speedy,  I have Cycle Guide Jan 76. which has a very nice article about the 175 Penton. Quote " Best Enduro? How about Best Motorcycle?" They really liked the bike and there is an inset to the article talking about John Penton and Ted Lapadakis and how KTM began in the U.S.
 If you want I can mail copies to you, no scanner sorry. Just forward your mailing address and I will get it too ya.
 While I have your attention, didn't you ride with Rodger and Ray Kussmaul over here in the U.S.? I was trying to dig up info for both but Ray in particular as he was nearly on the Silver Vase Team in Mass. Hollar back and the pages will be sent. there are some good photos also. Hope to meet you someday Speedy, you are one of my Hero's. Sincerely,TooTallPaul
 p.s I would consider trading my MPH speedo for a Km unit if your friend has one. The plan for my 74 250 is to represent what the bike looked like in Euro trim as most of us never knew exactly what a KTM was back in the day.

The names ring bells,but....
And thanks for your kind words...

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
2 x Hercules 250-7A 77
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[paul]

Speedy, I will get the article out Monday. In the past week there were 2 Hercules for sale on Ebay and that brought you to mind. The one is a Gem Speedy. It showed very low miles and I would love to own it but it sits many miles away and shipping has gotten out of sight. One question, does the Sachs 175 share the shifting woes of my 125? Mine is not bad because its a low hour machine. Keep your head on shifting and you are OK,no missed shifts. Kinda wondered about the 175 and you have experience with them that few have. Thanks, TT Paul

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by paul

Speedy, I will get the article out Monday. In the past week there were 2 Hercules for sale on Ebay and that brought you to mind. The one is a Gem Speedy. It showed very low miles and I would love to own it but it sits many miles away and shipping has gotten out of sight. One question, does the Sachs 175 share the shifting woes of my 125? Mine is not bad because its a low hour machine. Keep your head on shifting and you are OK,no missed shifts. Kinda wondered about the 175 and you have experience with them that few have. Thanks, TT Paul

Hello Paul.
When you speak about bad shifting on your 125cc,I guess you talk about a SACHS 6 speed engine???
Because all 7 Speed engines use the same shifter mechanism,there would be no difference in shifting,unless there is a shifter item in the system worn out or not installed the right way.
There are some tricks on the 7 speed shifting set up to make it even better as it came from the factory.
I sure do not have any problems with mine.
Considering that the 6 speed Sachs shifting system is not really the best,but with proper set up and TLC,they work fine.

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
2 x Hercules 250-7A 77
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[paul]

Speedy, I sent you the original article rolled up in an envelope. First thing the lady at the P.O. did was crush it with a stamp. Hopefully it comes with no creases in case some want copies.
 Thanks for the info in the 175 Sachs. Over the years I have trained myself to shift Euro bikes. Kind of wish I had a rocker shifter on my 125. Some of y'all dont know what that is. Shifting up with my heal makes for a more positive shift. Big ol HD's and even my newer Dresser have one but they went out of style on dirt bikes back in the Honda 90 days. Take care, TooTallPaul

[rob w]

I can help you Mr. Clasen.
The test in the July '75 Cycle Illustrated (all black & white) is from a British reporter, and the bike (enduro) is not stock in appearance, having a large Hi-Point after market tank.
There's alot of text though and it's okay reading.

I tried some scanning last night, and this is what I found.
When done as a "PDF document", the pictures don't turn out nearly as clear as in scanning like a "picture", but the text is better.
Also PDF documents turn out 8 1/2 x 11, typical page size.
While scanning as a picture - the images are clearer, but smaller text.

So.....I guess my question to you is, which is more important - the text or the pictures. Or which do you prefer ?

I'll be back home this evening, can get them to you tonight, or tomorrow evening.

Bob Wardlow
Grand Rapids, MI.

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by paul

Speedy, I sent you the original article rolled up in an envelope. First thing the lady at the P.O. did was crush it with a stamp. Hopefully it comes with no creases in case some want copies.
 Thanks for the info in the 175 Sachs. Over the years I have trained myself to shift Euro bikes. Kind of wish I had a rocker shifter on my 125. Some of y'all dont know what that is. Shifting up with my heal makes for a more positive shift. Big ol HD's and even my newer Dresser have one but they went out of style on dirt bikes back in the Honda 90 days. Take care, TooTallPaul

Hello Paul.
I rceived your pages and passed them on to my buddy.Thank you very much.

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by rob w

I can help you Mr. Clasen.
The test in the July '75 Cycle Illustrated (all black & white) is from a British reporter, and the bike (enduro) is not stock in appearance, having a large Hi-Point after market tank.
There's alot of text though and it's okay reading.

I tried some scanning last night, and this is what I found.
When done as a "PDF document", the pictures don't turn out nearly as clear as in scanning like a "picture", but the text is better.
Also PDF documents turn out 8 1/2 x 11, typical page size.
While scanning as a picture - the images are clearer, but smaller text.

So.....I guess my question to you is, which is more important - the text or the pictures. Or which do you prefer ?

I'll be back home this evening, can get them to you tonight, or tomorrow evening.

Bob Wardlow
Grand Rapids, MI.

HANK YOU My friend.
I found one nice test story in a magazin at our motorcycle fleemarket,and Paul send me an other test story.
I think that will do for my friend.
Thanks anyway for your offer.
Cheers,..

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[rob w]

It was a little more than an offer, it took me about four hours of work to send them to you.
Oh you're welcome..................whatever

quote:Originally posted by Speedy

quote:Originally posted by rob w

I can help you Mr. Clasen.
The test in the July '75 Cycle Illustrated (all black & white) is from a British reporter, and the bike (enduro) is not stock in appearance, having a large Hi-Point after market tank.
There's alot of text though and it's okay reading.

I tried some scanning last night, and this is what I found.
When done as a "PDF document", the pictures don't turn out nearly as clear as in scanning like a "picture", but the text is better.
Also PDF documents turn out 8 1/2 x 11, typical page size.
While scanning as a picture - the images are clearer, but smaller text.

So.....I guess my question to you is, which is more important - the text or the pictures. Or which do you prefer ?

I'll be back home this evening, can get them to you tonight, or tomorrow evening.

Bob Wardlow
Grand Rapids, MI.

HANK YOU My friend.
I found one nice test story in a magazin at our motorcycle fleemarket,and Paul send me an other test story.
I think that will do for my friend.
Thanks anyway for your offer.
Cheers,..

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by rob w

It was a little more than an offer, it took me about four hours of work to send them to you.
Oh you're welcome..................whatever

quote:Originally posted by Speedy

quote:Originally posted by rob w

I can help you Mr. Clasen.
The test in the July '75 Cycle Illustrated (all black & white) is from a British reporter, and the bike (enduro) is not stock in appearance, having a large Hi-Point after market tank.
There's alot of text though and it's okay reading.

I tried some scanning last night, and this is what I found.
When done as a "PDF document", the pictures don't turn out nearly as clear as in scanning like a "picture", but the text is better.
Also PDF documents turn out 8 1/2 x 11, typical page size.
While scanning as a picture - the images are clearer, but smaller text.

So.....I guess my question to you is, which is more important - the text or the pictures. Or which do you prefer ?

I'll be back home this evening, can get them to you tonight, or tomorrow evening.

Bob Wardlow
Grand Rapids, MI.

Thank you my friend.
I found one nice test story in a magazin at our motorcycle fleemarket,and Paul send me an other test story.
I think that will do for my friend.
Thanks anyway for your offer.
Cheers,..

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

Hello Bob.
I am sorry if we have a misunderstanding.[:0]
I have not received anything from you.
How did you send it?[?]
If it is still available ,great.The more info on my buddies Penton project the better.I can send him an other letter to Germany,or take it with me when I go over in September.
Cheers,...

Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[rob w]

Helmut, I should know you're too kind and considerate to be thankless. Other than asking you via another message, my computor gave me every indication they got there. I email with 8 pages attached to the address above [email protected] on the 18th.
Maybe they were intercepted at the border - the Mounties would'nt let me enter your country last time I tried.

It would be best if you told me what your German Jackpiner friend was looking for in particular. Is it a restoration for the eyes, or for the trail ? Is he looking for original pictures, as in maybe sales brochures.? Or just what would satisfy his needs most. I'm still here for you - you did'nt lose me.

Anyway - I just sent that 8 page article / test to you again, 10 minutes ago.

Bob

[Speedy]

quote:Originally posted by rob w

Helmut, I should know you're too kind and considerate to be thankless. Other than asking you via another message, my computor gave me every indication they got there. I email with 8 pages attached to the address above [email protected] on the 18th.
Maybe they were intercepted at the border - the Mounties would'nt let me enter your country last time I tried.

It would be best if you told me what your German Jackpiner friend was looking for in particular. Is it a restoration for the eyes, or for the trail ? Is he looking for original pictures, as in maybe sales brochures.? Or just what would satisfy his needs most. I'm still here for you - you did'nt lose me.

Anyway - I just sent that 8 page article / test to you again, 10 minutes ago.

Bob

Hello ROBERTO.
NOTHING.....
Something is wrong because I am getting dayly stuff from around the world.
My buddy ROBERTO Maddalozzo,( MADLOCO) a Italien living and working in Germany,
has a 175 KTM from 1975 and wants to rebuild it into a PENTON.So he is looking for pics,tech.infos,test stories etcetera.
Roberto is a member of the Italien VINTAGE group Rugginose.

Cheers,...
(I still love you :D:D)



Helmut"Speedy"Clasen
 Ontario Canada
http://speedy_c.tripod.com
http://picasaweb.google.com/vindurospeedy
2 x Sachs MC-GS 250-7A
1 x Hercules 350-7A 77
2 x Hercules 250-7A 76
Zuendapp 125 GS 72-73

[rob w]

Helmut,
 aaaaah-hmmmm-geeez ? my big giant brain is baffled by this lack of cyber transmission .....but I'll try to fiqure it out when I'm at home.

For Roberto's sake, about the only things different between '75 branded KTM and Penton 175's are - the decals, and (I'm pretty sure) the size and color of the headlight.

Bob